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Am I the only one who uses YouTube like this: * Only go on the Subscriptions page; I've never once visited the "Home" page * Blocked the Recommended Videos si
by petargyurov 4y ago
Am I the only one who uses YouTube like this:
* Only go on the Subscriptions page; I've never once visited the "Home" page
* Blocked the Recommended Videos sidebar using uBlock
* Use SponsorBlock
* Use uBO filters to remove Shorts from Subscriptions page
I come to watch what I want, not get all the clickbait on the side.
- tiborsaas 4y agoWith this many extensions you could write your own frontend :)
- timbit42 4y agoLike NewPipe?
- blfr 4y agoI use SponsorBlock and uBlock quite heavily but you're missing out on Home. The recommendations are surprisingly good. For me, it basically takes a guess what topics and themes I find interesting and pulls content around them. Automatic notifications are also pretty good. YouTube figured out that I like interviews on a certain channel and nothing else, or Ukraine war updates from another channel but not their regular content. Probably through simple similar audience trick but solid selection nevertheless. For whatever reason, it cannot apply this knowledge to shorts which are dreadfully bad.
- spookthesunset 4y ago> Ukraine war updates from another channel but not their regular content Speaking of search and YouTube UI… are you talking about that veteran guy who occasionally does coverage on Ukraine but keeps a level head. He will often point out why it is important to think about why your enemy is doing what it is doing. And he uses some open source map to show what is going on? …and the rest of his content seems to be reviews of military related things, or something else that has nothing to do with Ukraine? Cause yeah I’m subscribed to that guy, I think… but I totally forget what his channel is and don’t seem to be getting any recommendations for his videos anymore.
- loufe 4y agoWas it something like S2underground? I noticed he dropped off the edge of the map in the last 2 months or so, as well.
- blfr 4y agoIt's a Polish travel channel "Podróże bez paszportu" which has taken up these updates after the war turned hot again so probably not the one you're thinking of.
- lovingCranberry 4y agoI find the recommendations genuinely horrible. I only get channels like real life lore, Adam Something etc, with sometimes very shallow takes at politics. And after marking those channels with "I don't want to see this", I get their hundreds of copycats. I mostly watch channels like Aswath Damodaran, mCoding, etc., which are not related to the contents of the mentioned channels at all, yet their recommendation engine still shows me all this stuff.
- maphew 4y agoTalking with friends: some report most recommendations align with their interests, even those that are surprising because they haven't expressed interest in that category (hadn't yet watched or liked a video in the theme). However like you other friends report routinely aweful recommendations across the board. My experience is in the middle somewhere. I wish there were a way to see how it places you in various demographics, with a corresponding 'slider' to move yourself in/out of topics.
- sph 4y agoMost or my recommendation are OK, but after 10 or so, Youtube starts recommending MMA videos, football, the latest K-Pop song, "I am pregnant!" trending crap. None of it is relevant, I keep telling it I am not interested yet Youtube keeps recommending trending topics. It just doesn't bloody care. I added another reminder on my todo list to get rid of Premium and go rogue. My biggest issue is watching it on Android TV and the iPad, I will need a good adblocking setup, no way in hell I will watch ads.
- jcpst 4y agoThis is interesting to me- I'm curious to hear how people use it. I do one of two things: - search duckduckgo, go to the "videos" tab, then I end up on youtube if that's where the video is. - go to youtube.com, use the search, pick the video. - I don't ever like/subscribe/comment on anything.
- godshatter 4y agoI follow a link from a local page of bookmarks I curate usually into a creators videos tab using firefox in private mode. I don't log in ever. I might click on some recommended videos in the sidebar, but a handful of videos later and the recommendations have jumped the shark and it's time to open a new window. If I happen on a new creator, I add a link to their videos tab on their main page to my list of bookmarks.
- augustuspolius 4y agoI have removed all feeds from the homepage, all recommended feeds, all comments, all video overlays with uBO. History is disabled, watch later hidden. I hardly ever use search directly on YT. The easiest way for me not to get consumed by trash is to proactively hide it. I leaned that I have low self control when it comes to data consumption, so I block everything I identify as dangerous.
- jeanlucdebran 4y agofor mostly the same reasons, I tend to use `yt-dlp`; I go on a quick foray to look for what I _really_ (and rationally, not dopamine-driven) want, get them all locally (wrote a script to batch them) and then I watch without any ads and far away from temptations :)
- HurdsTimesNear 4y agodo this instead: site:youtube.com <your_searchterm>
- HurdsTimesNear 4y agoor like so: !yt <your_searchterm> !gv <your_searchterm>
- lalopalota 4y agoEnhancer for Youtube lets me setup the UI the way I like it.
- snird 4y agoYes, you probably are one of a tiny group. Youtube power is in its recommendation engine. I discovered amazing content through this engine. You say you come to watch what you want, but how do you initially fill the "subscription" page without exploring first? There can be various levels of exploring. Maybe visiting the home page only once a month. But the distribution capabilities are what makes Youtube what it is.
- naikrovek 4y agoagree. a lot of people I've known who say "there is nothing good on YouTube" either ignore or outright block recommended videos from showing up. there are centuries of videos worth watching on YouTube, and the more you tell YouTube what you like (by watching) the better it gets at recommending things you like.
- mtone 4y agoWhen I check my recommended feed it's all stuff very closely related stuff to my subscriptions and recent views, and some useless shorts. It's just an echo chamber at this point. If I'm looking for potentially interesting content outside my core subscription views, I'm better served by turning on FM radio.
- wruza 4y agoI actually want it to stop “recommending” and be a year 200x youtube when you could randomly stumble upon something interesting and follow it. Today’s youtube really feels like a chamber, a very secure one.
- naikrovek 4y agoit's not an echo chamber unless you tell it to be. all those videos in your watch history? others have watched those videos, too. youtube will recommend videos that those others have watched and that you have not. the narrower the focus of your viewed videos, the narrower the focus of the recommendations will be.
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- groovybits 4y agoPersonally, the majority of my Home page are videos from my subscribed channels. I get the occasional suggestions for related content from other channels, but I'd say 8/10 times the suggestions are good ones for me. My typical usage is: * Go to Home page * Add highly relevant videos to my Watch Later playlist * View the videos from Watch Later, like/dislike as appropriate * Rinse and repeat I'm trying to give Shorts a shot. I particularly like them for viewing podcast shorts, but I've noticed the suggestions are taking a longer time to give me 'relevant' videos. Some of the Shorts are totally random, while others are from my Subscribed channels. I make sure to like/dislike as appropriate, and I've noticed a slight improvement in a week's time.
- Kubuxu 4y agoThere is one primary reason why I don’t watch shorts, you cannot adjust speed of them (I watch most YT at 2.5x speed).
- auxermen 4y agoOn desktop you can use a script that redirects you to normal video UI instead of the shorts one and you can change the speed there: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/439993-youtube-shorts-redirect https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/439993-youtube-shorts-redi...
- Kubuxu 4y agoThanks, I knew there had to be a solution, once short content opened in normal player for me, I just didn't find it worth to look for it.
- forgotmypw17 4y agoI blocked the domain which serves thumbnail images. Pages are amazingly clean now. When I mouseover a video with an interesting title, the preview appears.
- wingerlang 4y agoSeems excessive IMO. Many videos have good thumbnails, better than the titles.
- forgotmypw17 4y agoI don't know how to define excessive in this case, but it made the website much more tolerable for me, and I'm grateful for being able to do it. The thumbnails are very distracting, and I found it hard to pay attention to the video playing on screen. I don't miss the thumbnails at all, not one bit.
- augustuspolius 4y agoInteresting idea, I will try that. I have disabled almost everything I could on YT (feeds, comments, video overlays, recommendations, history), but occasionally still encounter the horrible twisted-face-pointing-finger thumbnails.
- aquir 4y agoHow can you block Shorts using uBO? Tried a few methods but none of them worked!
- petargyurov 4y agoTry this: https://letsblock.it/filters/youtube-shorts https://letsblock.it/filters/youtube-shorts
- jrmann100 4y agoAn extra shoutout to "DF Tube (Distraction Free)" extensions[0] which have some of those UI zappers pre-programmed. I use YouTube like this! Definitely going to implement some of your suggestions. [0]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/df-tube-distraction-free/mjdepdfccjgcndkmemponafgioodelna https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/df-tube-distractio...
- Pmop 4y agoI do the same thing. I also have search/watch history turned off.
- jeanlucdebran 4y ago.. and in addition, why not use yt-dlp (or similar) to watch without the zillion ads and in full control of when and what you consume?
- BitwiseFool 4y agoI do all of the above, except the Shorts filter because I didn't know how to do that. Would you be willing to share this? YouTube is so much better when you remove all the little overlays and dark-patterns meant to get you to watch something else at all times.
- ClassyJacket 4y agoYouTube is also unbearable without Clickbait Remover For Youtube. It changes the thumbnails to a frame from the video. Linus' channel is particularly horrible without this. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/clickbait-remover-for-youtube/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/clickbait-rem...
- yewenjie 4y agoAh! This is very useful. I hate those over-the-top expressions in the thumbnails.
- dont__panic 4y agoYou go to the subscriptions page? I've been subscribed to channel RSS feeds for a year or so now, never even go to YouTube to "browse" because the interface is so awful. I'd like to figure out how to filter Shorts from my RSS feeds, but my preferred channels almost never use them so it hasn't been a big deal. The only other annoyance is live streams, which seem to debut on my RSS feed several hours before they're actually live (with no clear information about the "live-iness" of the video).
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- HurdsTimesNear 4y agoI block out all comments. Those are likely all bots or people indistinguishable from bots, I use grease monkey and a javascript script to block it out, I also use another one to be able to increase the playback speed beyond the arbitrary 2x limit. But getting the clean google-videos layout which was just a video player and a search bar can be done entirely with ublock :D
- naikrovek 4y ago> I block out all comments. Those are likely all bots or people indistinguishable from bots definitely not. there are very few bots in YouTube comments these days, though there certainly are some. there is a LOT of brown-nosing, though. I don't watch ultra-popular stuff, so what I see is different from what you will see, necessarily.
- dmitriid 4y agoDepends on the video. In DiabloLOL series there will always be someone breaking down all references second by second. In gameplay and game streaming videos you'll find useful tidbits and hints on how to play a game. etc.
- HurdsTimesNear 4y agoYou can watch all your youtubes on vlc: just press open network stream and copy paste the link. this gives you more features through vlc than you can shake a stick at...
- cortesoft 4y agoMy only interaction with youtube is clicking on a link from another site, or searching for something on google and clicking on the link from their. I never navigate within youtube, nor click on any other videos.
- _jal 4y agoDon't forget dismissing the ads, and then the login nag, and then ad to subscribe, so the video is actually visible. ...all of which serve to remind me what a pit of suck the service is, and ensure I never subscribe. And the cycle of life is complete.
- pjc50 4y agoI'm the other way round: I _do_ use the recommendation engine, but I click "not interested" on anything that isn't a music video and make sure to only have music videos in my likes. Oh and of course adblock. Newpipe for mobile. This works OK, although it tends to promote the same things over and over, seemingly at random.
- princevegeta89 4y ago"Try YouTube TV. " This popup always shows up in my account no matter how many times I dismiss it. Very annoying. Any way to remove this with uBO? I tried a few ways but it ended up not working well
- SoftTalker 4y agoDid they ever fix the problem that prevented having both a YouTube Premium and YouTube TV subscription on the same account?
- garblegarble 4y agoRelated: what I've been doing with the incessant "we need your consent" popups on incognito tabs is to write a tampermonkey script that on page load searches and auto-clicks the refuse / dismiss button, the same approach might work for your issue? Crazy this is the sort of nonsense we have to resort to in order to make Google products usable...
- aendruk 4y ago> Only go on the Subscriptions page For this I just use the web feeds. Creators are free to hop platforms and my workflow won’t need to change.
- dymk 4y agoIt might be because I've got a large and diverse enough set of channel subscriptions, but the Home page is surprisingly good at recommending good quality new channels and videos. I don't think I could use YT without SponsorBlock and uBO. The SponsorBlock outage of the last few days really made me aware how much time is wasted on those sponsored segments, intro reels, and interaction reminders. I love it when videos have a SB "skip to highlight" timestamp -that 10 minute video of the creator rambling on and on is now a 10 second video of the slow-motion moneyshot.
- kevinfiol 4y agoNope! I did almost exactly what you described before ejecting altogether and consuming my subscriptions via RSS + a static site I generate hourly (linked in a top-level comment). I recognize that people value YouTube for it's recommendation engine. That was never the draw for me; I just want a place to watch videos from creators I like. Overall, I found the recommendations to not work for me; they were overall noisy and distracting. Someone asked me once "well how do you find new content?", which I found hilarious.
- thewebcount 4y agoI use it like this: * Never go to https://youtube.com https://youtube.com to find anything. Only go to YouTube when it's a known link you found on another site. I don't need recommendations or ads * Copy the URL, paste it into yt-dlp * Wait a few seconds for the video to download and watch it in my viewer of choice with no crap attached.
- opan 4y agoTo add to this, you can directly play stuff in mpv if yt-dlp is installed and in your PATH. Combine this with a window manager shortcut to open the clipboard contents in mpv and the experience is pretty slick. You can also dump the URLs in a .m3u file and watch a bunch in a row with mpv that way.
- kevincox 4y agoI'm not as extreme, but >90% of my YouTube watching is via the channel RSS feeds (which I get sent to my email and filtered into "Videos" and "Videos Background" folders). Then 10% of the time if I am out of subscribed videos and want to see something new I scroll the homepage. I find that I rarely appreciate the recommendations below the videos but sometimes the homepage is ok.
- poetril 4y agoThis is exactly how I browse as well. I have uBlock hiding all links that could possibly lead me to the home page, as well the sidebar, and post video recommendations. The only content I consume is from the 'Subscriptions' page.
- andreyk 4y agoI also usually watch from subscriptions (I am subscribed to 100s of channels). But I do like the home page and recommendations for discovering new channels! In my experience it actually captures what I like to watch a lot (perhaps because I subscribe to a lot of stuff and like many videos).
- kleer001 4y agoI don't. I'm so off the chart in personality trait openness I have to see new stuff all the time. And not just any new stuff. It's annoying.
- justnotworthit 4y agoSet aside the custom uBO filters and add "Remove Youtube Suggestions" to your arsenal. You can block a huge array of UI elements. I too only do subscriptions, watch everything my subscribed channels put out by placing them in my playlists (custom watch later lists for attention spans/activies), and only find other channels through my current channels. If you don't watch everything from specific channels (some big ones really pump them out), I recommend PocketTube's Subscription manger (and playlist manager). Youtube hates us. It takes away tools for us to watch how you and I want, and refuses to add basic tools to playlists like "removed all watched" and "sort by length". I'm subscribed "watch later" still exists. They want you to just watch "recommended" videos one after the other like tik-tok-television.
- Test0129 4y agoThe problem I have is that I dont have a Google account. So I basically can't even use the website except through the recommender.