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> why is there such a mania for reducing sort/finest options Apple started the minimalist, option hiding, functionality axing, 1984-ish control freak movement.

> why is there such a mania for reducing sort/finest options Apple started the minimalist, option hiding, functionality axing, 1984-ish control freak movement. They even got away with selling phones without chargers, making $40 billion on lightning cables sales. Just blame Apple.

Kye 4y ago
They still come with a Lightning to USB-C cable. I plug it into my laptop when I need a quick charge and use my existing lower power Lightning charger when I don't.
augustuspolius 4y ago
Not everything is a conspiracy to make more money. I don’t know a single person in my bubble who needs more lightning cables. I have a dozen unused lightning cables already laying around. I threw away every pair of headphones that came with an iPhone I have ever bought. Most of mini/micro usb cables that come with small electronics go into trash - I do not need more cables!
- alexb_ 4y ago
  >Not everything is a conspiracy to make more money. ???? That's literally exactly what the point of every business decision is.
  - duxup 4y ago
    I’ve made business decisions. It’s not always a conspiracy to make more money.
    - HurdsTimesNear 4y ago
      You are right sometimes it is all out in the open
  - afavour 4y ago
    Well, no, that's why things like government regulations exist. Some business decisions are to keep within, say, a government target for waste produced.
    - Minor49er 4y ago
      And government control over these matters is why lobbyists exist
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - augustuspolius 4y ago
    There are literally people in the world that can be motivated by something other than money. Some of those people are involved in making business decisions. Imagine that!
- duxup 4y ago
  Agreed. At this point extra cables and chargers seems wasteful. If you need one there are plenty of options, including affordable 3rd party options.
- spookthesunset 4y ago
  Was just thinking about how they stopped including headphones. Yeah, I already have enough chargers, headphones and whatever else… Cynically it’s probably a way to adjust for inflation or whatever by keeping the same price but reducing the amount of stuff you get.
- delecti 4y ago
  Agreed. I've never even owned a device that uses Lightning, and I still have a small handful of Lightning cables in various cable drawers.
yreg 4y ago
>making $40 billion on lightning cables sales Someone commented this yesterday but the calculation was crap. What source do you have?

Kye 4y ago

They still come with a Lightning to USB-C cable. I plug it into my laptop when I need a quick charge and use my existing lower power Lightning charger when I don't.

augustuspolius 4y ago

Not everything is a conspiracy to make more money. I don’t know a single person in my bubble who needs more lightning cables. I have a dozen unused lightning cables already laying around. I threw away every pair of headphones that came with an iPhone I have ever bought. Most of mini/micro usb cables that come with small electronics go into trash - I do not need more cables!

alexb_ 4y ago
>Not everything is a conspiracy to make more money. ???? That's literally exactly what the point of every business decision is.
- duxup 4y ago
  I’ve made business decisions. It’s not always a conspiracy to make more money.
  - HurdsTimesNear 4y ago
    You are right sometimes it is all out in the open
- afavour 4y ago
  Well, no, that's why things like government regulations exist. Some business decisions are to keep within, say, a government target for waste produced.
  - Minor49er 4y ago
    And government control over these matters is why lobbyists exist
- deleted 4y ago
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- augustuspolius 4y ago
  There are literally people in the world that can be motivated by something other than money. Some of those people are involved in making business decisions. Imagine that!
duxup 4y ago
Agreed. At this point extra cables and chargers seems wasteful. If you need one there are plenty of options, including affordable 3rd party options.
spookthesunset 4y ago
Was just thinking about how they stopped including headphones. Yeah, I already have enough chargers, headphones and whatever else… Cynically it’s probably a way to adjust for inflation or whatever by keeping the same price but reducing the amount of stuff you get.
delecti 4y ago
Agreed. I've never even owned a device that uses Lightning, and I still have a small handful of Lightning cables in various cable drawers.

yreg 4y ago

>making $40 billion on lightning cables sales Someone commented this yesterday but the calculation was crap. What source do you have?