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Pretty crazy that a country can just completely block all internet outside of what they want to be accessible... One app that came to my mind reading this is B

Pretty crazy that a country can just completely block all internet outside of what they want to be accessible... One app that came to my mind reading this is Briar [1] - no real internet required, can connect to other briar participants via bluetooth and WiFi. Sadly only for Android... [1] https://briarproject.org https://briarproject.org

Thaxll 4y ago
It's not crazy, internet is like public roads, they can decide to close them anytime they want.
- culi 4y ago
  Who's "they" and why are we paying to uphold their power to make this decision whenever they want
  - vkou 4y ago
    We aren't doing anything, The Iranian government chooses to control what happens to electricity within their borders. It's one of the fundamental points of state sovereignty.
    - culi 4y ago
      The example given was "public roads"
      - bobthepanda 4y ago
        States can, and do, maintain the power to maintain or close public roads. In fact, they do so daily at border checkpoints, and do so locally in cases like local natural disaster risk (e.g. hurricane or wildfire evacuation).
        vkou 4y ago
        Or in the case of local social disaster risk, like, say, riots, protests, or public gatherings.
        bobthepanda 4y ago
        It doesn’t even need to be a disaster. A parade or block party closure is a closure of a public road, so is closing the street and digging a tunnel.
  - ferrocarraiges 4y ago
    "They" are whoever holds the monopoly on violence in the region. Sometimes colloquially called a "government" or "state". You probably don't pay them to uphold their power to close roads whenever they want, it's just a consequence of the aforesaid monopoly on violence. If you think it's wrong, you can try to bring competition into the market, but if history is any indication you'd better make sure you have a lot of upper/middle-class people who agree with you first.
vbezhenar 4y ago
Why would I want to connect to other briar participants? I want to connect to hacker news. It might be useful for terrorists or protesters, but for ordinary people - not sure.

Thaxll 4y ago

It's not crazy, internet is like public roads, they can decide to close them anytime they want.

culi 4y ago
Who's "they" and why are we paying to uphold their power to make this decision whenever they want
- vkou 4y ago
  We aren't doing anything, The Iranian government chooses to control what happens to electricity within their borders. It's one of the fundamental points of state sovereignty.
  - culi 4y ago
    The example given was "public roads"
    - bobthepanda 4y ago
      States can, and do, maintain the power to maintain or close public roads. In fact, they do so daily at border checkpoints, and do so locally in cases like local natural disaster risk (e.g. hurricane or wildfire evacuation).
      - vkou 4y ago
        Or in the case of local social disaster risk, like, say, riots, protests, or public gatherings.
        bobthepanda 4y ago
        It doesn’t even need to be a disaster. A parade or block party closure is a closure of a public road, so is closing the street and digging a tunnel.
- ferrocarraiges 4y ago
  "They" are whoever holds the monopoly on violence in the region. Sometimes colloquially called a "government" or "state". You probably don't pay them to uphold their power to close roads whenever they want, it's just a consequence of the aforesaid monopoly on violence. If you think it's wrong, you can try to bring competition into the market, but if history is any indication you'd better make sure you have a lot of upper/middle-class people who agree with you first.

vbezhenar 4y ago

Why would I want to connect to other briar participants? I want to connect to hacker news. It might be useful for terrorists or protesters, but for ordinary people - not sure.