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So we're going to have a second great firewall now?

lixtra 4y ago
In fact various Twitter accounts are already unavailable in EU today because they are censored for spreading Russian state propaganda.
- jevgeni 4y ago
  - raspberry1337 4y ago
    Bad
  - collegeburner 4y ago
    why? i have a legitimate interest in looking at "russian propaganda" sometimes because it's relevant to understanding the ongoing conflict. it may not be fact ually accurate but the official position of their government is relevant to grasping geopolitical problems of the day especially since basically everything their government releases could be reasonably classified as "propaganda". but i guess only the "verified journalists" or whatever will be allowed to review this then explain it to us proles as they see fit.
    - foepys 4y ago
      Germany already has some experience in what fascist propaganda can lead to and really doesn't want to repeat that.
pjc50 4y ago
There's already country-level tweet blocking in places for those countries with constitutional bans on Nazism: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/10/how-to-use-twitters-built-in-nazi-blocking-feature.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/10/how-to-use-twitters-...
mort96 4y ago
Companies having to follow the rules in the countries they operate in is nothing new.
- collegeburner 4y ago
  i have a website. i host it in America. i do not check where my visitors are coming from and just comply with American law since this is where me and my server are. am i "operating" in zimbabwe, or moldova, or fiji? no. if twitter stops selling ads to EU entities, closes any offices, and hosts just outside the EU borders it does not have to comply. if for no other reason then the eu loses its power to enforce.
  - pmoriarty 4y ago
    "if twitter stops selling ads to EU entities, closes any offices, and hosts just outside the EU borders it does not have to comply" Maybe they'll move to Sealand.
  - arlcode 4y ago
    You don't and if Twitter does the same they wouldn't have to check either. Probably everybody operating a website is in violation of a law somehwere around the globe. If you want to sell to European customers you will find that (depending on your size and business) you will have to comply with some laws in order to continue in this Market. The bigger your business the more rules and at a certain size laws will be created to regulate you in particular. This is what Twitter and friends face.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    Well, until EU courts hold Twitter executives in contempt. in which case any traveling for those people outside the US might be a tad risky. Just ask those VW managers that cannot travel outside of Germany anymore because the US have extradition treaties in place with other EU countries.
- weberer 4y ago
  Right, and the solution for doing that within China, Iran, etc is to restrict what people in those areas can see, while leaving the content visible to those connecting from more liberal countries.

In fact various Twitter accounts are already unavailable in EU today because they are censored for spreading Russian state propaganda.

jevgeni 4y ago
- raspberry1337 4y ago
  Bad
- collegeburner 4y ago
  why? i have a legitimate interest in looking at "russian propaganda" sometimes because it's relevant to understanding the ongoing conflict. it may not be fact ually accurate but the official position of their government is relevant to grasping geopolitical problems of the day especially since basically everything their government releases could be reasonably classified as "propaganda". but i guess only the "verified journalists" or whatever will be allowed to review this then explain it to us proles as they see fit.
  - foepys 4y ago
    Germany already has some experience in what fascist propaganda can lead to and really doesn't want to repeat that.

pjc50 4y ago

There's already country-level tweet blocking in places for those countries with constitutional bans on Nazism: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/10/how-to-use-twitters-built-in-nazi-blocking-feature.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/10/how-to-use-twitters-...

mort96 4y ago

Companies having to follow the rules in the countries they operate in is nothing new.

collegeburner 4y ago
i have a website. i host it in America. i do not check where my visitors are coming from and just comply with American law since this is where me and my server are. am i "operating" in zimbabwe, or moldova, or fiji? no. if twitter stops selling ads to EU entities, closes any offices, and hosts just outside the EU borders it does not have to comply. if for no other reason then the eu loses its power to enforce.
- pmoriarty 4y ago
  "if twitter stops selling ads to EU entities, closes any offices, and hosts just outside the EU borders it does not have to comply" Maybe they'll move to Sealand.
- arlcode 4y ago
  You don't and if Twitter does the same they wouldn't have to check either. Probably everybody operating a website is in violation of a law somehwere around the globe. If you want to sell to European customers you will find that (depending on your size and business) you will have to comply with some laws in order to continue in this Market. The bigger your business the more rules and at a certain size laws will be created to regulate you in particular. This is what Twitter and friends face.
- hef19898 4y ago
  Well, until EU courts hold Twitter executives in contempt. in which case any traveling for those people outside the US might be a tad risky. Just ask those VW managers that cannot travel outside of Germany anymore because the US have extradition treaties in place with other EU countries.
weberer 4y ago
Right, and the solution for doing that within China, Iran, etc is to restrict what people in those areas can see, while leaving the content visible to those connecting from more liberal countries.