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You can't accurately measure "calorie" intake. Calories are units of heat, and don't represent how the human body utilizes energy from food. The number of cal
by ravenstine 4y ago
You can't accurately measure "calorie" intake. Calories are units of heat, and don't represent how the human body utilizes energy from food. The number of calories you'll find attributed to a given food are determined by how much heat is emitted by the available macronutrients if they were set on fire in a bomb calorimeter. Humans don't work like bomb calorimeters. This is why calories as a measure of nutrition are nearly useless.
I'm not exactly speaking as an armchair scientist, though I don't have a Phd. I spent over 9 months this last year developing my own tech to measure human metabolic activity and did extensive research into the broader subject, and quit my job in part to focus on it.
Whether you were overeating or not hardly has anything to do exclusively with eating a couple of extra grams. What you were eating and your individual physiology is primarily what dictates how your body will ultimately respond to your food. The vast majority of people in our industrial societies are eating diets that our species barely or never adapted to, and the prevalent macronutrients of said eating creates this illusion that the problem is calories. Our bodies are actually extremely good at self regulating. Problems enter when we get the fuel mix wrong, which is what we're doing when we're eating carbohydrates 3+ times every day.
A good (though imperfect) analogy is the fuel you put in your car. Modern fuel injected cars can actually start on different fuels. You can, for instance, put E85 ethanol fuel in a non flex-fuel car and it will probably start, and there's a chance it will be able to continuously run on it, albeit poorly. The reason for this is a standard car isn't configured to run on ethanol. While it probably can run on it, it's specialized for one particular fuel, which is gasoline. Maybe you can run your gasoline car on E85, but you'll have to step hard on the gas pedal and you will eventually suffer the consequences of poor engine performance. (Ironically, many modern cars can run fine on E85 with a mere software update, but that's a different story)
I would challenge you to gain any meaningful amount of fat mass on a diet of pure animal protein, let alone hold on to existing fat. It's a lot more difficult than most people believe. The satiety signal that follows eating meat, which is a hormonal response, is more powerful and sustaining than a diet based on carbohydrates. Glucose, what most carbs ultimately become, is poisonous to cells, while protein isn't. A diet based on protein means the body doesn't need to use or store the supply of glucose because the necessary glucose can be generated from protein on demand. The way your body responds to these different macronutrients is very different. People counterintuitively lose a lot of weight eating lots of fat because, unlike carbohydrates, fat has little to no insulin response on its own.
Things also get messier when fat and carbs are eaten simultaneously, but I feel like I've mentioned this on HN a bajillion times already.
All this to say that the calorie model for human nutrition should no longer be taken seriously.
Calories might only mean anything as a measure of energy expenditure, but even that measure has little utility to anyone who isn't in the process of dying. Some people succeed in losing weight by restricting the amount of "calories" they are consuming and offsetting the "calories" they eat by performing exercise. Where this falls apart is taking the same exact energy intake and activity level, replicate it in another person, and fail to see the same fat loss results. Below a certain point, yes, you'll see every participant lose weight, but you may also find them to be wasting muscle. Eventually, the effects of "calorie" restriction and carbohydrate intake will catch up with a person and they will suffer for it because neither "calorie" restriction or frequent carbohydrate intake are things that humans are adapted for.
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- cwhite44 4y agoCan you provide any papers or sources relating to this? Would be an interesting read
- ttoinou 4y agoAll this to say that the calorie model for human nutrition should no longer be taken seriously. There was no reason to take it seriously in the first place... The people who did that won't be convinced by scientific arguments
- gniv 4y ago> Glucose, what most carbs ultimately become, is poisonous to cells, Do you mean excessive glucose? I doubt glucose is poisonous, seeing how simple and basic the krebs cycle is.
- ravenstine 4y agoGlucose is toxic. Granted, even water is toxic at some level, but that threshold for toxicity is much higher than that of glucose. Glucose is a fundamental part of the Krebs cycle, yes, and is not a problem if that glucose is managed and regulated. By default, the human body manages glucose very well. When that system is disrupted either by consuming exogenous carbohydrates as well as consuming carbs and fats together simultaneously, said system begins to fail and that's what can lead to all sorts of problems involving blood sugar. See Table 1 of "Glucose Toxicity": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK278934/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK278934/ Unmanaged glucose is toxic to every tissue in the body.
- ravenstine 4y agoOh, one thing I forgot to mention is that even if intake of "calories" meant something from a physiological standpoint, the calorie counts on food packaging can be wrong by a significant margin. They're allowed to be as wrong as 20%, which can mean hundreds of calories. https://www.insider.com/calorie-labels-arent-accurate-how-to-eat-healthy-diet-2021-5 https://www.insider.com/calorie-labels-arent-accurate-how-to...