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Has anyone been able to get their hands on a decomissioned Google server?

privong 4y ago
> Has anyone been able to get their hands on a decomissioned Google server? Depending on what specifically you're after, there's a number of them on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=google+search+appliance https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=google+search+appliance
INTPenis 4y ago
The re-branded Dell servers Google sent out as search indexers (I believe) were pretty common 10-15 years ago. I remember seeing two of them here in Sweden alone, during my career. But that is not the caseless DIY shelf-servers they've displayed in various PR videos.
- runlevel1 4y ago
  In fact, there are a dozen on eBay right now: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=google+search+appliance https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=google+search+appliance According to Wikipedia, the 2U models were indeed based on Dell PowerEdge servers, and the 1U models were apparently based on Super Micro servers.[^1] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Search_Appliance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Search_Appliance
- snowwrestler 4y ago
  For those custom servers, I remember reading that Google did not bother unracking and disposing of them, but let the dead ones sit in the rack indefinitely. They figured out that it was more efficient to have hardware techs spend 100% of their time provisioning new hardware, and just let their software detect the broken servers, power them down, and route the tasks to working servers.
  - monocasa 4y ago
    At some point the hyperscalers end up decommissioning their servers because of perf/watt concerns. I don't think they bother with single failures for the reasons you've stated, but they do decommission full sections of DCs once the wattage calculus no longer makes sense.
virtuallynathan 4y ago
Google Global Cache appliances are just off-the-shelf Dell/HP hardware, same for Facebook Network Appliances.
johndfsgdgdfg 4y ago
I wouldn't trust any Google hardware - decomissioned or not. You don't know what kind of spyware they are running on their hardware.
- dylan604 4y ago
  I mean, I like to bash on Google too, but this is just not even logical. They want the spyware to run on your hardware. They don't need it on their hardware. If there is spyware on Goog's hardware, I'd be looking at it coming from certain three letter agencies or other nation states.
livueta 4y ago
I did! I worked at a university at the time and another department was decommissioning one (a GSA). My group was looking for hardware at the time, so we snagged it. Under the yellow paint it was a bog-standard Dell PowerEdge. I think I still have a ridiculous picture somewhere of my team and I hustling the thing out through the parking lot like we were making off with super-secret Google hardware.

> Has anyone been able to get their hands on a decomissioned Google server? Depending on what specifically you're after, there's a number of them on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=google+search+appliance https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=google+search+appliance

INTPenis 4y ago

The re-branded Dell servers Google sent out as search indexers (I believe) were pretty common 10-15 years ago. I remember seeing two of them here in Sweden alone, during my career. But that is not the caseless DIY shelf-servers they've displayed in various PR videos.

runlevel1 4y ago
In fact, there are a dozen on eBay right now: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=google+search+appliance https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=google+search+appliance According to Wikipedia, the 2U models were indeed based on Dell PowerEdge servers, and the 1U models were apparently based on Super Micro servers.[^1] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Search_Appliance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Search_Appliance
snowwrestler 4y ago
For those custom servers, I remember reading that Google did not bother unracking and disposing of them, but let the dead ones sit in the rack indefinitely. They figured out that it was more efficient to have hardware techs spend 100% of their time provisioning new hardware, and just let their software detect the broken servers, power them down, and route the tasks to working servers.
- monocasa 4y ago
  At some point the hyperscalers end up decommissioning their servers because of perf/watt concerns. I don't think they bother with single failures for the reasons you've stated, but they do decommission full sections of DCs once the wattage calculus no longer makes sense.

virtuallynathan 4y ago

Google Global Cache appliances are just off-the-shelf Dell/HP hardware, same for Facebook Network Appliances.

johndfsgdgdfg 4y ago

I wouldn't trust any Google hardware - decomissioned or not. You don't know what kind of spyware they are running on their hardware.

dylan604 4y ago
I mean, I like to bash on Google too, but this is just not even logical. They want the spyware to run on your hardware. They don't need it on their hardware. If there is spyware on Goog's hardware, I'd be looking at it coming from certain three letter agencies or other nation states.

livueta 4y ago

I did! I worked at a university at the time and another department was decommissioning one (a GSA). My group was looking for hardware at the time, so we snagged it. Under the yellow paint it was a bog-standard Dell PowerEdge. I think I still have a ridiculous picture somewhere of my team and I hustling the thing out through the parking lot like we were making off with super-secret Google hardware.