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We have already reached the point where the best AI driver is better than the worst human driver, so I'm hopeful.

by shaky-carrousel 4y ago

manigandham 4y ago
What does that mean exactly?
- dom96 4y ago
  Presumably it's better than someone who is blind. That's something I guess /s
- dagw 4y ago
  The bar to legally drive a car is very low in many parts of the world. As such there are many people who can legally drive, yet do it worse than the best AI, and on the whole people seem to be OK with that.
silon42 4y ago
Yeah, I'm hoping I could use it to get to the shops in a few decades when I'm 70+ or so.
- shaky-carrousel 4y ago
  That is a good age to stop driving by yourself. With the machines you will keep your independence and won't need the help of another human to go wherever you want. It's a win for me.
MontyCarloHall 4y ago
The worst human driver is blackout drunk. I’m not sure that’s such a high bar to clear.
- shaky-carrousel 4y ago
  I should have clarified, the worst legal human driver, I thought that was a given. I saw old people driving way worse than any AI. Distracted people. Plain dumb people. There are a lot of varieties of really bad drivers. And the best machine is better than them.
  - timeon 4y ago
    > the worst legal human driver Maybe they should be illegal if they are worse than this: https://youtu.be/3mnG_Gbxf_w https://youtu.be/3mnG_Gbxf_w
    - shaky-carrousel 4y ago
      That happens all the time. Humans get distracted, machines sometimes fail. But machines will eventually get better, while humans will always get distracted sometimes, because it is part of ourselves.
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lm28469 4y ago
On a straight highway in sunny california maybe, in the city, on a mountain road, anywhere with snow or heavy rain or fog, it's game over and will always be if we keep using the current techs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbSDsbDQjSU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbSDsbDQjSU
- fragmede 4y ago
  high tech sensors can see right though through fog when human eyes can't, so I'm not sure humans really have the advantage in that case.
smt88 4y ago
When Elon Musk says this, he's flat-out lying. When Waymo says it, they're talking about an extremely narrow set of circumstances[1]. Regardless, it's not true in any practical sense. 1. https://jalopnik.com/waymo-claims-its-driver-ai-is-safer-than-a-human-and-ba-1849598194 https://jalopnik.com/waymo-claims-its-driver-ai-is-safer-tha...

We have already reached the point where the best AI driver is better than the worst human driver, so I'm hopeful.

manigandham 4y ago

What does that mean exactly?

dom96 4y ago
Presumably it's better than someone who is blind. That's something I guess /s
dagw 4y ago
The bar to legally drive a car is very low in many parts of the world. As such there are many people who can legally drive, yet do it worse than the best AI, and on the whole people seem to be OK with that.

silon42 4y ago

Yeah, I'm hoping I could use it to get to the shops in a few decades when I'm 70+ or so.

shaky-carrousel 4y ago
That is a good age to stop driving by yourself. With the machines you will keep your independence and won't need the help of another human to go wherever you want. It's a win for me.

MontyCarloHall 4y ago

The worst human driver is blackout drunk. I’m not sure that’s such a high bar to clear.

shaky-carrousel 4y ago
I should have clarified, the worst legal human driver, I thought that was a given. I saw old people driving way worse than any AI. Distracted people. Plain dumb people. There are a lot of varieties of really bad drivers. And the best machine is better than them.
- timeon 4y ago
  > the worst legal human driver Maybe they should be illegal if they are worse than this: https://youtu.be/3mnG_Gbxf_w https://youtu.be/3mnG_Gbxf_w
  - shaky-carrousel 4y ago
    That happens all the time. Humans get distracted, machines sometimes fail. But machines will eventually get better, while humans will always get distracted sometimes, because it is part of ourselves.

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lm28469 4y ago

On a straight highway in sunny california maybe, in the city, on a mountain road, anywhere with snow or heavy rain or fog, it's game over and will always be if we keep using the current techs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbSDsbDQjSU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbSDsbDQjSU

fragmede 4y ago
high tech sensors can see right though through fog when human eyes can't, so I'm not sure humans really have the advantage in that case.

smt88 4y ago

When Elon Musk says this, he's flat-out lying. When Waymo says it, they're talking about an extremely narrow set of circumstances[1]. Regardless, it's not true in any practical sense. 1. https://jalopnik.com/waymo-claims-its-driver-ai-is-safer-than-a-human-and-ba-1849598194 https://jalopnik.com/waymo-claims-its-driver-ai-is-safer-tha...