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> I use a Raspberry Pi 4 (with 8GB of RAM) as my daily desktop computer. I browse the internet, read and send e-mails, program software, edit photos, create ima

> I use a Raspberry Pi 4 (with 8GB of RAM) as my daily desktop computer. I browse the internet, read and send e-mails, program software, edit photos, create images, watch Youtube videos and play games on it. Without any significant problems. Yes for those lite tasks is fine, and you can also save some watts. The things are different when you want to do audio/video/photo production.

rambambram 4y ago
Of course! But I still was positively surprised that GIMP, Youtube and even Kdenlive worked flawlessly on the thing.
- jerf 4y ago
  Yeah. "Production", implying a high standard of professional quality using a base of uncompressed 4K or 8K might be a bad idea, sure, or trying to run a live event with half-a-dozen input streams and live streaming back out to the internet. But plenty of uses of video editing would still be perfectly possible on an RPi4. It might be noticeably faster on a "real" desktop, but it would be perfectly doable, especially if you were working in less than 1080P for some reason, like a DVD source video.
  - anthk 4y ago
    A DVD resolution can be handled for edition even under a Pentium III or a Rasbperry B+.
- doubled112 4y ago
  It has been a few years, but I used to do all of these things (GIMP, YouTube, Kdenlive) on a Pentium 4 with 1GB RAM Why wouldn't they work on a Pi 4 with higher specs?
  - anthk 4y ago
    4k and 8k video. With 720p OFC a G4 macbook or some bumped up dual Pentium III with Cinelerra/Cinepaint under Linux and a Geforce 3 was more than enough.
  - rambambram 4y ago
    I don't know, but still, I was surprised. Maybe I do know and it has to do with software bloat? I don't find it hard to believe that the software you ran on your Pentium was less bloated somehow.
rr888 4y ago
> audio/video/photo production No one I know does this. The biggest problem for me is to use our corporate remote desktop you need spyware that only works on Windows and Mac.
- jcelerier 4y ago
  This is wild, huge majority of people I know personally who use computers want to do at least one of these things once in a while. Or if not this, some CAD work, 3d modeling, and other computationally expensive things
  - contracertainty 4y ago
    I'm gonna second gp, I don't know anyone who does photo/video editing, cad/cam or 3D modeling. In fact, I know more people with > 3 pi's than I do coders. People love them and use them for all sorts. But I don't know anyone who does any of those things.
  - adrian_b 4y ago
    I agree with you, but all those tasks alternate with many hours during which a personal computer is used only for reading and editing documents, or Internet browsing, or audio listening or video watching. For the latter activities, a computer bigger than an Intel NUC or similar computers is never needed. I do CAD work, compilation of large software projects and other tasks that need a fast computer, but I do these on a couple of big tower servers, which I wake up only when necessary. As a PC, I use an Intel NUC, but now there are more alternatives to it than ever, e.g. there are several models of small computers with AMD Rembrandt Ryzen 6000 CPUs. The NUC-like computers are faster than the cheap laptops having the same CPUs and they also have a much more complete set of peripheral ports. I frequently see comments that there are laptops which are cheaper than the NUC-like computers, but those cheap laptops are typically garbage that I would not use even if I would receive them for free. A laptop comparable in performance, versatility and reliability with a $1000 NUC-like computer may cost $3000 or more.
abudabi123 4y ago
On the RasPi4 8GB there is this 4MB jpeg file that crashes Krita but will render slowly in Falkon. https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/150000/150427/ian_oli_2022271_lrg.jpg https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/150000/15...

rambambram 4y ago

Of course! But I still was positively surprised that GIMP, Youtube and even Kdenlive worked flawlessly on the thing.

jerf 4y ago
Yeah. "Production", implying a high standard of professional quality using a base of uncompressed 4K or 8K might be a bad idea, sure, or trying to run a live event with half-a-dozen input streams and live streaming back out to the internet. But plenty of uses of video editing would still be perfectly possible on an RPi4. It might be noticeably faster on a "real" desktop, but it would be perfectly doable, especially if you were working in less than 1080P for some reason, like a DVD source video.
- anthk 4y ago
  A DVD resolution can be handled for edition even under a Pentium III or a Rasbperry B+.
doubled112 4y ago
It has been a few years, but I used to do all of these things (GIMP, YouTube, Kdenlive) on a Pentium 4 with 1GB RAM Why wouldn't they work on a Pi 4 with higher specs?
- anthk 4y ago
  4k and 8k video. With 720p OFC a G4 macbook or some bumped up dual Pentium III with Cinelerra/Cinepaint under Linux and a Geforce 3 was more than enough.
- rambambram 4y ago
  I don't know, but still, I was surprised. Maybe I do know and it has to do with software bloat? I don't find it hard to believe that the software you ran on your Pentium was less bloated somehow.

rr888 4y ago

> audio/video/photo production No one I know does this. The biggest problem for me is to use our corporate remote desktop you need spyware that only works on Windows and Mac.

jcelerier 4y ago
This is wild, huge majority of people I know personally who use computers want to do at least one of these things once in a while. Or if not this, some CAD work, 3d modeling, and other computationally expensive things
- contracertainty 4y ago
  I'm gonna second gp, I don't know anyone who does photo/video editing, cad/cam or 3D modeling. In fact, I know more people with > 3 pi's than I do coders. People love them and use them for all sorts. But I don't know anyone who does any of those things.
- adrian_b 4y ago
  I agree with you, but all those tasks alternate with many hours during which a personal computer is used only for reading and editing documents, or Internet browsing, or audio listening or video watching. For the latter activities, a computer bigger than an Intel NUC or similar computers is never needed. I do CAD work, compilation of large software projects and other tasks that need a fast computer, but I do these on a couple of big tower servers, which I wake up only when necessary. As a PC, I use an Intel NUC, but now there are more alternatives to it than ever, e.g. there are several models of small computers with AMD Rembrandt Ryzen 6000 CPUs. The NUC-like computers are faster than the cheap laptops having the same CPUs and they also have a much more complete set of peripheral ports. I frequently see comments that there are laptops which are cheaper than the NUC-like computers, but those cheap laptops are typically garbage that I would not use even if I would receive them for free. A laptop comparable in performance, versatility and reliability with a $1000 NUC-like computer may cost $3000 or more.

abudabi123 4y ago

On the RasPi4 8GB there is this 4MB jpeg file that crashes Krita but will render slowly in Falkon. https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/150000/150427/ian_oli_2022271_lrg.jpg https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/150000/15...