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I think most people would agree that violence includes force to harm someone. The paintings were behind protective glass and the demonstrators knew about it.

I think most people would agree that violence includes force to harm someone. The paintings were behind protective glass and the demonstrators knew about it. I would say the way allow this system to destroy our biosphere and create a miserable future for future generations - that could be classed as terrorism.

pelasaco 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_heritage_by_the_Islamic_State https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_herita...
- uxcolumbo 4y ago
  Would you mind adding a few more words to explain how the destruction of cultural heritage by the Islamic State relates to climate activism?
  - pelasaco 4y ago
    - uxcolumbo 4y ago
      You're still not explaining how 2 teenagers throwing tomato soup on a painting protected by glass is the same as the Islamic State blowing up ancient buildings. One group trying to raise awareness about the climate crisis, which is a threat to human civilization as we know it. The other group uses explosives that kills people.
      - pelasaco 4y ago
        well flagging the comments, because you dont like it, is not a way to keep a discussion.
        uxcolumbo 4y ago
        I didn't. Accusing me of flagging your comment is also not a way to keep a discussion. But I still like to hear why you think those teenagers who carried out a non-violent civil disobedience protest is the same as the Islamic State destroying ancient buildings and killing people.
        pelasaco 4y ago
        > Islamic State destroying ancient buildings and killing people. You added "killing people" to the statement because...? You are being lazy tbh or not just occasional hypocrite. If you cannot create a link between "destroying human heritage" and "for a policial cause", I don't think we have much to keep discussing here. Yes until now the "attacks" were harmless but it is escalating. They will increase the damage otherwise they dont get the attention that they want[1]. [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/kenney-suzuki-climate-change-1.6260987 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/kenney-suzuki-climate...
        uxcolumbo 4y ago
        > You added "killing people" to the statement because Because it's a fact that is relevant for this discussion. IS have not only destroyed ancient buildings, but they have also killed thousands of people. IS is a terrorist organization [0] Please explain how mentioning that fact is hypocritical or lazy? You are equating climate activists with a terrorist organization. Have climate activists killed thousands of people? And FYI - the climate activists have not destroyed the paintings. The paintings were protected by glass. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_linked_to_the_Islamic_State https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_li...
        pelasaco 4y ago
        its an issue that is escalating. They won't keep doing the same terror. They will escalate it, trying to shock more and more. Terrorist attacks don't have to result in death, why you think that it is the case? The eco-terrorists in germany did already some attacks in 2021, without any death, but still a terror attack https://electrek.co/2021/05/26/tesla-factory-construction-site-attacked-saboteurs-electric-cables-fire/ https://electrek.co/2021/05/26/tesla-factory-construction-si...

pelasaco 4y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_heritage_by_the_Islamic_State https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_herita...

uxcolumbo 4y ago
Would you mind adding a few more words to explain how the destruction of cultural heritage by the Islamic State relates to climate activism?
- pelasaco 4y ago
  - uxcolumbo 4y ago
    You're still not explaining how 2 teenagers throwing tomato soup on a painting protected by glass is the same as the Islamic State blowing up ancient buildings. One group trying to raise awareness about the climate crisis, which is a threat to human civilization as we know it. The other group uses explosives that kills people.
    - pelasaco 4y ago
      well flagging the comments, because you dont like it, is not a way to keep a discussion.
      - uxcolumbo 4y ago
        I didn't. Accusing me of flagging your comment is also not a way to keep a discussion. But I still like to hear why you think those teenagers who carried out a non-violent civil disobedience protest is the same as the Islamic State destroying ancient buildings and killing people.
        pelasaco 4y ago
        > Islamic State destroying ancient buildings and killing people. You added "killing people" to the statement because...? You are being lazy tbh or not just occasional hypocrite. If you cannot create a link between "destroying human heritage" and "for a policial cause", I don't think we have much to keep discussing here. Yes until now the "attacks" were harmless but it is escalating. They will increase the damage otherwise they dont get the attention that they want[1]. [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/kenney-suzuki-climate-change-1.6260987 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/kenney-suzuki-climate...
        uxcolumbo 4y ago
        > You added "killing people" to the statement because Because it's a fact that is relevant for this discussion. IS have not only destroyed ancient buildings, but they have also killed thousands of people. IS is a terrorist organization [0] Please explain how mentioning that fact is hypocritical or lazy? You are equating climate activists with a terrorist organization. Have climate activists killed thousands of people? And FYI - the climate activists have not destroyed the paintings. The paintings were protected by glass. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_linked_to_the_Islamic_State https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_li...
        pelasaco 4y ago
        its an issue that is escalating. They won't keep doing the same terror. They will escalate it, trying to shock more and more. Terrorist attacks don't have to result in death, why you think that it is the case? The eco-terrorists in germany did already some attacks in 2021, without any death, but still a terror attack https://electrek.co/2021/05/26/tesla-factory-construction-site-attacked-saboteurs-electric-cables-fire/ https://electrek.co/2021/05/26/tesla-factory-construction-si...