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> But, you know, you're the one who selected a lifestyle where you value your muscles above life of innocent beings, No I valued a lifestyle where I felt healt

by rcarr 4y ago

> But, you know, you're the one who selected a lifestyle where you value your muscles above life of innocent beings, No I valued a lifestyle where I felt healthier and could perform at a higher level outside of the gym. But performing at that level requires me to train hard in the gym otherwise I am prone to bouts of depression. > You're killing innocent beings. So are you going to act like the food chain doesn’t exist anymore and all animals are innocent beings who don’t eat other animals. That’s some Disney Princess shit. > Not just the ones you consume, you're also the reason why wildlife is disappearing. Ok but you can’t label all of this at the door of omnivores. Presumably you are typing this on a device which mined the earth for rare minerals so I hope you are willing to give that device up. And if you have any kind of vehicle other than a bicycle I hope you’re willing to give that up too. When you get sick, I hope you are willing to eschew medicine as it has almost certainly been tested on animals (most likely mice) at some point before making it to market. Every time new construction is undertaken habitats are destroyed. So I hope you are ok sleeping in a tent and not a house or do you just want the rest of the growing population to sleep rough whilst you are excluded from having to make this particular sacrifice? You’re also guilty of killing animals unless you’re living in a hut wearing home spun robes. It’s just more abstract for you so you can delude yourself into thinking you’re one of the holy ones. > When somebody points out that you don't have to do that, you counter argue that it's inconvenient to prepare vegan meal? As if your convenience was somehow relevant First you’ve cherry picked the sentence and disregarded the rest. And yes, my convenience (and everyone else’s) is relevant. Humans are wired to conserve energy. I am not going to waste my energy unnecessarily if there are more convenient options available. Presumably you do the same or are you still taking your clothes down to the river to scrub them rather than using the washing machine?

myshpa 4y ago
> otherwise I am prone to bouts of depression It sounds you're just suppresing your depression. Maybe you should direct your efforts to solving the problems causing you depression. It will catch you sooner or later, you know. > like the food chain doesn’t exist anymore We're at the top of the food chain, destroying everything below us. And we're no longer part of the nature, we're above it. If you feel you're like a lion, why don't you lick your balls and eat your young? > Presumably you are typing this on a device ... Nobody argues we should go back to the stone age. It's not possible and not practical. Eating plant-based is, and it solves a lot of current problems (co2, methane, biodiversity loss, droughts, needless suffering, ...). > Every time new construction ... Urban and built-up land is 1.5 mil km2, land for animal agriculture is 40 mil. km2 ( https://ourworldindata.org/land-use https://ourworldindata.org/land-use ). > First you’ve cherry picked the sentence and disregarded the rest I found there nothing of value to comment on, sorry.
- rcarr 4y ago
  > It sounds you're just suppresing your depression. Maybe you should direct your efforts to solving the problems causing you depression. It will catch you sooner or later, you know. Your arrogance is truly astounding. Not only do you know what’s best for my diet and lifestyle apparently you know what’s best for my mental health as well. I’m going to go eat a burger today just because of your attitude. Good luck with your crusade.
  - myshpa 4y ago
    > It sounds ... maybe ... I don't know what's good for you, and don't pretend to know, I'm just speaking from my own experience. About plant-based diet, I'm just able to comprehend and accept the facts and modify my own behaviour where needed. > I’m going to go eat a burger today just because of your attitude No, you're going to eat it because you value the taste and your own convenience above everything else. > Good luck with your crusade. Good luck with your gym buddies, hope they'll appreciate the gains.
    - rcarr 4y ago
      You literally don’t give one fuck about getting people to reduce their meat intake. All you care about is that you get to maintain the pedestal of holiness you sit upon in your own head. Your entire comment history is just you arguing with people about why everyone should be vegan. You’re a sad individual.
      - myshpa 4y ago
        It's a pedestal of sadness and desperation, not holiness. You're wrong again. You know, it's a viewpoint that's been desperately ignored in HN comment threads in recent years, that's why I decided to start commenting on it after almost 10 years of lurking. I may make some people very angry, to the point of personal attacks. That's fine. If you plant a seed, it may grow. We'll see. Better than doing nothing and watching the world burn.

by rcarr 4y ago

myshpa 4y ago

> otherwise I am prone to bouts of depression It sounds you're just suppresing your depression. Maybe you should direct your efforts to solving the problems causing you depression. It will catch you sooner or later, you know. > like the food chain doesn’t exist anymore We're at the top of the food chain, destroying everything below us. And we're no longer part of the nature, we're above it. If you feel you're like a lion, why don't you lick your balls and eat your young? > Presumably you are typing this on a device ... Nobody argues we should go back to the stone age. It's not possible and not practical. Eating plant-based is, and it solves a lot of current problems (co2, methane, biodiversity loss, droughts, needless suffering, ...). > Every time new construction ... Urban and built-up land is 1.5 mil km2, land for animal agriculture is 40 mil. km2 ( https://ourworldindata.org/land-use https://ourworldindata.org/land-use ). > First you’ve cherry picked the sentence and disregarded the rest I found there nothing of value to comment on, sorry.

rcarr 4y ago
> It sounds you're just suppresing your depression. Maybe you should direct your efforts to solving the problems causing you depression. It will catch you sooner or later, you know. Your arrogance is truly astounding. Not only do you know what’s best for my diet and lifestyle apparently you know what’s best for my mental health as well. I’m going to go eat a burger today just because of your attitude. Good luck with your crusade.
- myshpa 4y ago
  > It sounds ... maybe ... I don't know what's good for you, and don't pretend to know, I'm just speaking from my own experience. About plant-based diet, I'm just able to comprehend and accept the facts and modify my own behaviour where needed. > I’m going to go eat a burger today just because of your attitude No, you're going to eat it because you value the taste and your own convenience above everything else. > Good luck with your crusade. Good luck with your gym buddies, hope they'll appreciate the gains.
  - rcarr 4y ago
    You literally don’t give one fuck about getting people to reduce their meat intake. All you care about is that you get to maintain the pedestal of holiness you sit upon in your own head. Your entire comment history is just you arguing with people about why everyone should be vegan. You’re a sad individual.
    - myshpa 4y ago
      It's a pedestal of sadness and desperation, not holiness. You're wrong again. You know, it's a viewpoint that's been desperately ignored in HN comment threads in recent years, that's why I decided to start commenting on it after almost 10 years of lurking. I may make some people very angry, to the point of personal attacks. That's fine. If you plant a seed, it may grow. We'll see. Better than doing nothing and watching the world burn.