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Imagine if they weren't wiped and receiving (a snapshot of) the entire Netflix catalogue.

crazysim 4y ago
I think for most DRM they are stored and distributed pre-encrypted. Encryption isn't performed on these servers, they just shove bytes out.
hhmc 4y ago
I assume that content has all been comprehensively pirated already. So apart from the optics, it’s not clear it would do much real damage.
- dachryn 4y ago
  it would just be a convenient nice to have, but indeed add no value over saving time and internet bandwidth
nly 4y ago
Would the entire netflix catalogue fit on this node?
- Namidairo 4y ago
  Even if the entire catalogue didn't fit on there, they mostly exist as edge caches , so stuffing the most popular/upcoming things on there and watching the hit rate is probably good enough to reduce most of the needless transit. That and they had different tiers of hardware I believe.
- guywhocodes 4y ago
  Maybe not if there are many encodings.
- helsinkiandrew 4y ago
  You could fit 13,000 4K movies in 262TB. But Netflix will have versions for different resolutions/output devices pre baked so I reckon (I wouldn't want to gamble to much on this) that a single device wouldn't have everything.
  - OJFord 4y ago
    Working in the other direction is that the region locking works by region you're in, not where you opened the account. So an edge cache would presumably never have titles that are only available in different parts of the world.
- corobo 4y ago
  If you look into the deployment guides (.. I was a little bored during lunch, lol. Also high scale tech is cool.) they preload content based on where the device is going to be deployed before shipping them out. From there they have a "fill" window each day during the ISP's low traffic period where Netflix pushes new content to it. > Each Open Connect Appliance (OCA) stores a portion of the Netflix catalog, which in general is less than the complete content library for a given region. Popularity changes, new titles that are added to the service, re-encoded movies, and routine software enhancements are all part of the nightly updates, or fill, that each appliance must download to remain current. -- https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/deployment-guide/ https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/deployment-guide/ I mean honestly in 2022 their catalogue might fit entirely ( :P ) but yeah looks like it's just a portion, comprised of whatever's popular in the region
- hn8305823 4y ago
  For and edge caching node, it doesn't need to. The vast majority of traffic is for a relatively small subset of the catalog that is popular that week/day/hour. Cache misses are directed to more centralized nodes that do have the full catalog (though not necessarily all on one server).
rcarmo 4y ago
The bits would be DRM encrypted, even in cached storage.
sschueller 4y ago
I would be more interested in the auth keys and api to the distribution node.
- killingtime74 4y ago
  Normally keys get rotated no?

I think for most DRM they are stored and distributed pre-encrypted. Encryption isn't performed on these servers, they just shove bytes out.

hhmc 4y ago

I assume that content has all been comprehensively pirated already. So apart from the optics, it’s not clear it would do much real damage.

dachryn 4y ago
it would just be a convenient nice to have, but indeed add no value over saving time and internet bandwidth

nly 4y ago

Would the entire netflix catalogue fit on this node?

Namidairo 4y ago
Even if the entire catalogue didn't fit on there, they mostly exist as edge caches , so stuffing the most popular/upcoming things on there and watching the hit rate is probably good enough to reduce most of the needless transit. That and they had different tiers of hardware I believe.
guywhocodes 4y ago
Maybe not if there are many encodings.
helsinkiandrew 4y ago
You could fit 13,000 4K movies in 262TB. But Netflix will have versions for different resolutions/output devices pre baked so I reckon (I wouldn't want to gamble to much on this) that a single device wouldn't have everything.
- OJFord 4y ago
  Working in the other direction is that the region locking works by region you're in, not where you opened the account. So an edge cache would presumably never have titles that are only available in different parts of the world.
corobo 4y ago
If you look into the deployment guides (.. I was a little bored during lunch, lol. Also high scale tech is cool.) they preload content based on where the device is going to be deployed before shipping them out. From there they have a "fill" window each day during the ISP's low traffic period where Netflix pushes new content to it. > Each Open Connect Appliance (OCA) stores a portion of the Netflix catalog, which in general is less than the complete content library for a given region. Popularity changes, new titles that are added to the service, re-encoded movies, and routine software enhancements are all part of the nightly updates, or fill, that each appliance must download to remain current. -- https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/deployment-guide/ https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/deployment-guide/ I mean honestly in 2022 their catalogue might fit entirely ( :P ) but yeah looks like it's just a portion, comprised of whatever's popular in the region
hn8305823 4y ago
For and edge caching node, it doesn't need to. The vast majority of traffic is for a relatively small subset of the catalog that is popular that week/day/hour. Cache misses are directed to more centralized nodes that do have the full catalog (though not necessarily all on one server).

rcarmo 4y ago

The bits would be DRM encrypted, even in cached storage.

sschueller 4y ago

I would be more interested in the auth keys and api to the distribution node.

killingtime74 4y ago
Normally keys get rotated no?