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> It’s clear at this point that the problem is not going to go away without intervention. The industry isn’t going to fix itself. Indeed. The main problem with

> It’s clear at this point that the problem is not going to go away without intervention. The industry isn’t going to fix itself. Indeed. The main problem with GDPR is that enforcement has been slow. And that the industry has blamed its own behavior on the law. As the article shows, the tide is ever so slowly turning. > Ok, so you phrase it more generally: “it is not permitted for consent for tracking cookies to be obtained when a user visits a website” And how, in this case, do you ask for consent for legitimate reasons?

Reason077 4y ago
This would be specifically for tracking cookies (“cookie pop-ups”). Consent for legitimate reasons is given, for example, when you sign up for an account on a website or conduct some sort of transaction with a business. Just not the act of anonymously visiting a web page.
- dmitriid 4y ago
  > This would be specifically for tracking cookies (“cookie pop-ups”). Those pop-ups are not "specific for tracking cookies". Because the issue, and the law, isn't about "tracking cookies". The issue, and the law, is about user data. So, they will replace the question about cookies with question about localStorage. Then about indexed db. Then about storing data in service workers. Why do you keep focusing on the one issue that is 100% the result of industries actions and pretending it's about the law? > Consent for legitimate reasons is given, for example, when you sign up for an account on a website or conduct some sort of transaction with a business. Again. Even when you sign up for something, for some of the data consent isn't required. And for other data consent is required. I give up. I cannot put it in simpler terms that I already have.
  - Reason077 4y ago
    > "So, they will replace the question about cookies with question about localStorage. Then about indexed db. Then about storing data in service workers." It doesn't matter how they're technically implemented, pop-ups seeking consent for tracking cookies (or their functional equivalent) should be banned. > "Again. Even when you sign up for something, for some of the data consent isn't required. And for other data consent is required." We seem to be agreeing on this, not disagreeing! The ban I'm proposing would apply to user tracking data, and would not affect whether or not consent is required for other data. The fundamental point is that the simple act of visiting a website should not require consent.

Reason077 4y ago

This would be specifically for tracking cookies (“cookie pop-ups”). Consent for legitimate reasons is given, for example, when you sign up for an account on a website or conduct some sort of transaction with a business. Just not the act of anonymously visiting a web page.

dmitriid 4y ago
> This would be specifically for tracking cookies (“cookie pop-ups”). Those pop-ups are not "specific for tracking cookies". Because the issue, and the law, isn't about "tracking cookies". The issue, and the law, is about user data. So, they will replace the question about cookies with question about localStorage. Then about indexed db. Then about storing data in service workers. Why do you keep focusing on the one issue that is 100% the result of industries actions and pretending it's about the law? > Consent for legitimate reasons is given, for example, when you sign up for an account on a website or conduct some sort of transaction with a business. Again. Even when you sign up for something, for some of the data consent isn't required. And for other data consent is required. I give up. I cannot put it in simpler terms that I already have.
- Reason077 4y ago
  > "So, they will replace the question about cookies with question about localStorage. Then about indexed db. Then about storing data in service workers." It doesn't matter how they're technically implemented, pop-ups seeking consent for tracking cookies (or their functional equivalent) should be banned. > "Again. Even when you sign up for something, for some of the data consent isn't required. And for other data consent is required." We seem to be agreeing on this, not disagreeing! The ban I'm proposing would apply to user tracking data, and would not affect whether or not consent is required for other data. The fundamental point is that the simple act of visiting a website should not require consent.