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Yes, except unlike wildlife, we have evolved be smart enough to limit our consumption in order to sustain future life. Unlike the algae that grows until it lite

Yes, except unlike wildlife, we have evolved be smart enough to limit our consumption in order to sustain future life. Unlike the algae that grows until it literally chokes itself to death, we can limit ourselves so future generations can also thrive. Up farther in this thread you're celebrating increasing meat consumption as an economic victory, so I suggest you tilt your balance more towards "conservation" and away from "immediate pleasures".

nemo44x 4y ago
Unlike algae we can invent things. We can engineer. Are aren’t a hopeless, deterministic algorithm like algae. Future generations don’t need us to thrive. Plus, what’s your obsession with future generations? Thank you for your suggestion. While I’m choosing prime ribeye steaks to grill this weekend I will consider it.
- fnimick 4y ago
  "Future generations don’t need us to thrive. Plus, what’s your obsession with future generations?" Have you considered asking those "future generations", i.e. YOUR KIDS, whether they'd like to live on a planet with a self-sustaining ecosystem or suffer through a climate catastrophe? You can't possibly think that we don't owe it to future generations to try to leave them a better planet. Would you support setting off a nuclear war now too, because the fallout will be a future someone else's problem?
  - nemo44x 4y ago
    - fnimick 4y ago
      Or, you know, the climate is in crisis already: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/27/climate-crisis-un-pathway-1-5-c https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/27/climate-... And meat eating has an enormous effect on climate change: https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-59232599 https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-59232599 But sure, I'm the one with the fantasy future here. I wouldn't care except YOUR consumption is directly ruining the world for everyone else. And I notice you didn't address your own comment asking why we should bother caring about future generations. How heartless are you?
      - nemo44x 4y ago

nemo44x 4y ago

Unlike algae we can invent things. We can engineer. Are aren’t a hopeless, deterministic algorithm like algae. Future generations don’t need us to thrive. Plus, what’s your obsession with future generations? Thank you for your suggestion. While I’m choosing prime ribeye steaks to grill this weekend I will consider it.

fnimick 4y ago
"Future generations don’t need us to thrive. Plus, what’s your obsession with future generations?" Have you considered asking those "future generations", i.e. YOUR KIDS, whether they'd like to live on a planet with a self-sustaining ecosystem or suffer through a climate catastrophe? You can't possibly think that we don't owe it to future generations to try to leave them a better planet. Would you support setting off a nuclear war now too, because the fallout will be a future someone else's problem?
- nemo44x 4y ago
  - fnimick 4y ago
    Or, you know, the climate is in crisis already: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/27/climate-crisis-un-pathway-1-5-c https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/27/climate-... And meat eating has an enormous effect on climate change: https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-59232599 https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-59232599 But sure, I'm the one with the fantasy future here. I wouldn't care except YOUR consumption is directly ruining the world for everyone else. And I notice you didn't address your own comment asking why we should bother caring about future generations. How heartless are you?
    - nemo44x 4y ago