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That's more subtle than that, and probably closer to how French treat their wine business for instance. An example of gov intervention: banning Huawei as it wa

That's more subtle than that, and probably closer to how French treat their wine business for instance. An example of gov intervention: banning Huawei as it was rising as a global phone maker, international tarriff negociation (the whole stupid tarriff war happened as China was rising as high end device exporter), protecting Apple's business when challenged on anti-trust grounds (Apple's open stance to the judge was "we need extortion to make money, let us keep brinig money in"). In doubt, look back at these photos of Tim Cook cringing next to Trump because he can't just say no.

lotsofpulp 4y ago
How is that an example of US government influencing other countries’ purchasing decisions?
- oblio 4y ago
  The US has been pushing and is very vocal about its partners not using Huawei. They might be right, but it's super hard to determine where good intentions stop and self interest starts.
  - rswail 4y ago
    The push against Huawei started in Australia as we started to deploy 5G. Our government essentially banned our telcos from installing Huawei equipment. The UK had set up a different approach where Huawei exposed their entire stack to UK security authority scrutiny. The "Five Eyes" security alliance (US/CA/UK/AU/NZ) basically then decided that they didn't want Huawei "inside" the 5G network, partially because of oversold promises of what 5G would enable. There is a new "cold war" between the US (and the "West") and China and a realignment of alliances since the 2nd term of Xi began and he started rolling back the opening up of China's economy. This has accelerated after the crack down in Hong Kong and the sabre rattling about Taiwan.
- makeitdouble 4y ago
  That's a pretty straight example: https://www.cnas.org/press/in-the-news/u-s-campaign-to-ban-huawei-overseas-stumbles-as-allies-resist https://www.cnas.org/press/in-the-news/u-s-campaign-to-ban-h... (Original source: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/17/us/politics/huawei-ban.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/17/us/politics/huawei-ban.ht...)

lotsofpulp 4y ago

How is that an example of US government influencing other countries’ purchasing decisions?

oblio 4y ago
The US has been pushing and is very vocal about its partners not using Huawei. They might be right, but it's super hard to determine where good intentions stop and self interest starts.
- rswail 4y ago
  The push against Huawei started in Australia as we started to deploy 5G. Our government essentially banned our telcos from installing Huawei equipment. The UK had set up a different approach where Huawei exposed their entire stack to UK security authority scrutiny. The "Five Eyes" security alliance (US/CA/UK/AU/NZ) basically then decided that they didn't want Huawei "inside" the 5G network, partially because of oversold promises of what 5G would enable. There is a new "cold war" between the US (and the "West") and China and a realignment of alliances since the 2nd term of Xi began and he started rolling back the opening up of China's economy. This has accelerated after the crack down in Hong Kong and the sabre rattling about Taiwan.
makeitdouble 4y ago
That's a pretty straight example: https://www.cnas.org/press/in-the-news/u-s-campaign-to-ban-huawei-overseas-stumbles-as-allies-resist https://www.cnas.org/press/in-the-news/u-s-campaign-to-ban-h... (Original source: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/17/us/politics/huawei-ban.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/17/us/politics/huawei-ban.ht...)