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> You cannot pay for an experience that rivals Plex Ironic you say this, since Plex Pass is virtually required if you want full control over streaming your med

> You cannot pay for an experience that rivals Plex Ironic you say this, since Plex Pass is virtually required if you want full control over streaming your media. I'm not sure you quite get it yet.

joshstrange 4y ago
I mean, I never said Plex was free. I paid for lifetime Plex Pass like 4+ years ago so I don’t have any ongoing costs. I have no issue spending money (which is why I use Plex and not Emby/Jellyfin), I have a problem when you literally cannot spend any amount of money to get what I consider the best experience. Even if you pay for every streaming app on the planet you can’t get the experience Plex can provide (with media acquired legally or otherwise).
- stavros 4y ago
  Unfortunately, the Plex experience is subpar for me. It frequently freezes, even on good connections, transcoding is low quality and doesn't use max quality even on a 600 Mbit line, and other jank. Browsing my library and selecting videos to play is amazing, just the actual player itself is nowhere near as good as Netflix's. If only there were a way to at least tell it "never transcode, just always play original quality". It's been years of this feature being requested, yet my server still tries to transcode.
- hatware 4y ago
  You use Plex because you think it's easier to use than Emby/Jellyfin. It would behoove you to recognize where you have been successfully marketed to. It's odd to reply to a thread about a piece of software that has always been FOSS, and parading the solution you paid for while saying "You can't pay for a better solution than something I've paid for!" Jellyfin is a better solution than Plex, and you're not paying anything! Imagine that.
  - joshstrange 4y ago
    It’s odd to care so much that someone enjoys a piece of software they paid for even if an open source alternative exists. I have said absolutely nothing against Emby/Jellyfin, just that I personally use Plex. I even mentioned Jellyfin in my original statement on equal footing with Plex: > You cannot pay for an experience that rivals Plex (or in this case Jellyfin). You omitted that from your quote. I was stating that running your own media server (no matter the software) is better than using the streaming services. I use Plex so I talked about Plex. I wasn’t refuting the article, I was making a statement about how shitty streaming has gotten.
    - hatware 4y ago
      I didn't omit anything. I focused on a sentence you led with. More importantly, I definitely don't care whether or not you enjoy Plex. I left that ecosystem 4 years ago because the writing was on the wall, now Jellyfin blows it out of the water performance wise. Didn't even have to pay for the pithy Plex Pass! > I was stating that running your own media server (no matter the software) is better than using the streaming services. Maybe you should have stated that in the first place...? It is certainly clearer in terms of the message. Nobody said you can't talk about Plex, just that it is weird to lead with "I paid for this!" on a thread about free software that isn't what you paid for. If you didn't pay for Plex pass, your comment would fit better. If the Geerling article was about Plex, your comment would fit better, but it wasn't, and it doesn't.
BeetleB 4y ago
Can you be more precise? I used Plex as a free user for a while before getting a Pass, and I seemed to have full control over my media - I could watch it remotely, etc.
- hatware 4y ago
  Plex has fallen behind free alternatives, which is no surprise because they already have most people's money. You're not paying for a higher quality experience when you pay for Plex Pass. You're paying for functionality that has been free in other alternatives for awhile, like hardware transcoding. Performance wise it's also bad compared to the competition.
  - BeetleB 4y ago
    So... No specifics other than hardware encoding? I don't pay them for hardware encoding but for other services that the alternatives suck at. Once you know you have to pay you don't really care what you have to pay for and what you don't. There are downsides to Plex, but do realize you're conversing with people who've used multiple options. I try Jellyfin once or twice a year and it's objectively a worse experience each time. And again, when I used the free version of Plex the viewing experience was perfect. I guess I just don't need hardware encoding?
    - hatware 4y ago
      Hardware encoding and general performance are quite a lot of reasons. I don't think you're making your argument in good faith when you are clearly not pushing these systems to their limits like some of us are. There's no need to act like you've really tried running Jellyfin when you just chose the easier option and stuck with it.

> You cannot pay for an experience that rivals Plex Ironic you say this, since Plex Pass is virtually required if you want full control over streaming your media. I'm not sure you quite get it yet.

joshstrange 4y ago

I mean, I never said Plex was free. I paid for lifetime Plex Pass like 4+ years ago so I don’t have any ongoing costs. I have no issue spending money (which is why I use Plex and not Emby/Jellyfin), I have a problem when you literally cannot spend any amount of money to get what I consider the best experience. Even if you pay for every streaming app on the planet you can’t get the experience Plex can provide (with media acquired legally or otherwise).

stavros 4y ago
Unfortunately, the Plex experience is subpar for me. It frequently freezes, even on good connections, transcoding is low quality and doesn't use max quality even on a 600 Mbit line, and other jank. Browsing my library and selecting videos to play is amazing, just the actual player itself is nowhere near as good as Netflix's. If only there were a way to at least tell it "never transcode, just always play original quality". It's been years of this feature being requested, yet my server still tries to transcode.
hatware 4y ago
You use Plex because you think it's easier to use than Emby/Jellyfin. It would behoove you to recognize where you have been successfully marketed to. It's odd to reply to a thread about a piece of software that has always been FOSS, and parading the solution you paid for while saying "You can't pay for a better solution than something I've paid for!" Jellyfin is a better solution than Plex, and you're not paying anything! Imagine that.
- joshstrange 4y ago
  It’s odd to care so much that someone enjoys a piece of software they paid for even if an open source alternative exists. I have said absolutely nothing against Emby/Jellyfin, just that I personally use Plex. I even mentioned Jellyfin in my original statement on equal footing with Plex: > You cannot pay for an experience that rivals Plex (or in this case Jellyfin). You omitted that from your quote. I was stating that running your own media server (no matter the software) is better than using the streaming services. I use Plex so I talked about Plex. I wasn’t refuting the article, I was making a statement about how shitty streaming has gotten.
  - hatware 4y ago
    I didn't omit anything. I focused on a sentence you led with. More importantly, I definitely don't care whether or not you enjoy Plex. I left that ecosystem 4 years ago because the writing was on the wall, now Jellyfin blows it out of the water performance wise. Didn't even have to pay for the pithy Plex Pass! > I was stating that running your own media server (no matter the software) is better than using the streaming services. Maybe you should have stated that in the first place...? It is certainly clearer in terms of the message. Nobody said you can't talk about Plex, just that it is weird to lead with "I paid for this!" on a thread about free software that isn't what you paid for. If you didn't pay for Plex pass, your comment would fit better. If the Geerling article was about Plex, your comment would fit better, but it wasn't, and it doesn't.

BeetleB 4y ago

Can you be more precise? I used Plex as a free user for a while before getting a Pass, and I seemed to have full control over my media - I could watch it remotely, etc.

hatware 4y ago
Plex has fallen behind free alternatives, which is no surprise because they already have most people's money. You're not paying for a higher quality experience when you pay for Plex Pass. You're paying for functionality that has been free in other alternatives for awhile, like hardware transcoding. Performance wise it's also bad compared to the competition.
- BeetleB 4y ago
  So... No specifics other than hardware encoding? I don't pay them for hardware encoding but for other services that the alternatives suck at. Once you know you have to pay you don't really care what you have to pay for and what you don't. There are downsides to Plex, but do realize you're conversing with people who've used multiple options. I try Jellyfin once or twice a year and it's objectively a worse experience each time. And again, when I used the free version of Plex the viewing experience was perfect. I guess I just don't need hardware encoding?
  - hatware 4y ago
    Hardware encoding and general performance are quite a lot of reasons. I don't think you're making your argument in good faith when you are clearly not pushing these systems to their limits like some of us are. There's no need to act like you've really tried running Jellyfin when you just chose the easier option and stuck with it.