> The wider Bay Area is not as bad Lived in SF for 9 years (2012-2020), and visited many places in the whole bay area. I don't know what you're talking about,

> The wider Bay Area is not as bad Lived in SF for 9 years (2012-2020), and visited many places in the whole bay area. I don't know what you're talking about, really. Bullet train? Slower than the slowest train in Italy. Homeless people? Try Mountain View, try San Jose. Only Marin County is a bit spared by it. Dirty? Expensive? Pretty much everywhere. Few exceptions, like downtown Palo Alto, around the Apple store. Really, you can't say it is "not that bad", unless you're forgetting there's the rest of the (civilized) world to compare it to.