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> the fictional, fantastical cop-movie interface [is] a fakery to help the police feel OK about themselves, and more importantly to coerce us into accepting the

> the fictional, fantastical cop-movie interface [is] a fakery to help the police feel OK about themselves, and more importantly to coerce us into accepting the need for their existence in the first place. Before proselytizing the dissolution of law enforcement, perhaps one ought to spend time researching the basics of sociology. Max Weber's Politics as a Vocation is probably a good place to start. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_as_a_Vocation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_as_a_Vocation

treeman79 4y ago
Grew up in a mid size city that got rid of police department. Sherif calls would take 45 minutes to respond. Place was a hell hole by the time we moved out. Didn’t even move far. Just to city that had police. Was drastically better.
- jtr1 4y ago
  Which city did you move from?
  - smm11 4y ago
    Suspecting Oklahoma.
- seizethegdgap 4y ago
  Definitely doesn't sound completely made up. Nope.
  - dahdum 4y ago
    Just sounds like a rural town to me. Whole police departments have been disbanded due to funding, corruption, and public outcry. Services are (often poorly) handled by county or neighboring towns temporarily or even permanently. Here’s a recent one in Alabama, same Sheriff situation as OP. https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ggmn/vincent-alabama-police-department-disbanded-racist-texts https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ggmn/vincent-alabama-polic... > The city will now rely on a neighboring sheriff’s office in Shelby County to answer emergency calls.
stefan_ 4y ago
Why would anyone read that? It's a work of fiction. Weber, like everything else in early sociology, was writing page upon page of stuff that merely flowed out of his brain. To continue citing this stuff is to make a mockery of science.
DesiLurker 4y ago
its so common that it actually has a term for it, copoganda. But on-the-point you are making why does it has to be this silly all or nothing choice with policing the police? why cant we have more oversight and actual negative outcomes for ill behaved cops without giving them full free reign to do whatever? or report on police narrative without any degree of pushback. Citations podcast had a bunch of episodes on this discussing in details, here is couple: https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/live-interview-police-defunding-that-never-was-and-abolitionism-as-a-long-term-social-project https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/live-interview-police-def... https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-54-the-casual-racism-of-local-crime-reporting-5abdbf4ceea9 https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-54-the-casual-rac...

treeman79 4y ago

Grew up in a mid size city that got rid of police department. Sherif calls would take 45 minutes to respond. Place was a hell hole by the time we moved out. Didn’t even move far. Just to city that had police. Was drastically better.

jtr1 4y ago
Which city did you move from?
- smm11 4y ago
  Suspecting Oklahoma.
seizethegdgap 4y ago
Definitely doesn't sound completely made up. Nope.
- dahdum 4y ago
  Just sounds like a rural town to me. Whole police departments have been disbanded due to funding, corruption, and public outcry. Services are (often poorly) handled by county or neighboring towns temporarily or even permanently. Here’s a recent one in Alabama, same Sheriff situation as OP. https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ggmn/vincent-alabama-police-department-disbanded-racist-texts https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ggmn/vincent-alabama-polic... > The city will now rely on a neighboring sheriff’s office in Shelby County to answer emergency calls.

stefan_ 4y ago

Why would anyone read that? It's a work of fiction. Weber, like everything else in early sociology, was writing page upon page of stuff that merely flowed out of his brain. To continue citing this stuff is to make a mockery of science.

DesiLurker 4y ago

its so common that it actually has a term for it, copoganda. But on-the-point you are making why does it has to be this silly all or nothing choice with policing the police? why cant we have more oversight and actual negative outcomes for ill behaved cops without giving them full free reign to do whatever? or report on police narrative without any degree of pushback. Citations podcast had a bunch of episodes on this discussing in details, here is couple: https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/live-interview-police-defunding-that-never-was-and-abolitionism-as-a-long-term-social-project https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/live-interview-police-def... https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-54-the-casual-racism-of-local-crime-reporting-5abdbf4ceea9 https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-54-the-casual-rac...