Is there a reference for the language ranking chart they use? I didn't see one listed. They have VB listed above Java, which I cannot believe is true. Is it inc

Is there a reference for the language ranking chart they use? I didn't see one listed. They have VB listed above Java, which I cannot believe is true. Is it including all the Excel macros out there in the world? I referenced the Tiobe Index, and it has Java at #3. So, who knows?