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I mean, if you had the chance to experience being in the front row of the Super Bowl virtually vs watching a flat 2d perspective, some people would want the 3d

I mean, if you had the chance to experience being in the front row of the Super Bowl virtually vs watching a flat 2d perspective, some people would want the 3d immersive 'feel like you're there / presence' experience. Same goes for concerts, burning man type stuff, music festivals, an intimate jazz performance, a Broadway musical, going to a zoo virtually, tourism like being in the bottom of the grand canyon, etc. They are not substitutes for the real thing they are substitutes for a 2D version that is usually pretty non-compelling. The real limitation is that the lack of tactile feedback means that you are at most a spectator/voyeur in these experiences.

duxup 4y ago
I'd be curious how exactly that would look. Front row super bowl, am I just watching a video of the the super bowl ... like I was in a seat? Does the stadium then just have VR cameras everywhere? One interesting repeated promise in TV land was that one day you could pick your view, specifically for sporting events ... but that is very rare and content owners / producers seem uninterested in providing it. I'm not sure they change their mind about that ...
- Sateeshm 4y ago
  >One interesting repeated promise in TV land was that one day you could pick your view, specifically for sporting events ... but that is very rare and content owners / producers seem uninterested in providing it. I'm not sure they change their mind about that ... The reason i guess is advertising.All those logos on the field are optimised for the specific camera angles
- grumbel 4y ago
  Apple bought and shutdown NextVR, which was doing most of the sports broadcasting in VR. So sadly for the moment, we don't really know what the state of the art is in that area. That aside, any kind of large event is extremely problematic in VR, as the resolution just isn't there. Everything a couple of meters away just turns into a blur. So looking at a far away event just feels like looking at a 240p video. It's really not a good experience. To further complicate the effort, you can't just move the camera closer either, such events are made to be looked at from far away. If you go up close, any kind of choreography in a concert will look weird and a sports event without a good view of the playfield wouldn't be great either. There might be ways to work around that, by leaving camera choice to the user, use of multiple screens, virtual binoculars or whatever. But it's far from a straight forward process. Meta themselves still hasn't even managed to properly broadcast their own conferences in a VR format, it's all still just flat 2D videos. When the action happens closer to the camera things get much easier, something like a boxing match with VR180-3D cameras in the corners might work well enough. Can't point to any real examples, but here is a fictional one[1] of how a fight might look in VR. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2RqR6MtwG8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2RqR6MtwG8
  - duxup 4y ago
    Yeah that's kinda what I assumed. TY for the comment. I got to a lot of sporting events, I'm moving my head / eyes, refocusing constantly, specifically closer to the action. I don't know how VR could capture all that visual data effectively and allow me to just look around.
- rngname22 4y ago
  Have you experienced VR film? Stereographic 180 degree SBS video? You'd just need something like ZCam k1 pro camera (although most videographers are using better stuff by now) that can do livestreaming and the big issue is dealing with heat + battery limitations at this point. "just watching a video" makes me think maybe you haven't really experienced actual stereo video (3d movies don't count). 360 monoscopic videos like you see on youtube are not stereo video in case people are confused.
tru3_power 4y ago
Another cool application would be home movies. Imagine being able to film your child’s first party from a headset and be able to relive it down the line. Would be pretty dope.

duxup 4y ago

I'd be curious how exactly that would look. Front row super bowl, am I just watching a video of the the super bowl ... like I was in a seat? Does the stadium then just have VR cameras everywhere? One interesting repeated promise in TV land was that one day you could pick your view, specifically for sporting events ... but that is very rare and content owners / producers seem uninterested in providing it. I'm not sure they change their mind about that ...

Sateeshm 4y ago
>One interesting repeated promise in TV land was that one day you could pick your view, specifically for sporting events ... but that is very rare and content owners / producers seem uninterested in providing it. I'm not sure they change their mind about that ... The reason i guess is advertising.All those logos on the field are optimised for the specific camera angles
grumbel 4y ago
Apple bought and shutdown NextVR, which was doing most of the sports broadcasting in VR. So sadly for the moment, we don't really know what the state of the art is in that area. That aside, any kind of large event is extremely problematic in VR, as the resolution just isn't there. Everything a couple of meters away just turns into a blur. So looking at a far away event just feels like looking at a 240p video. It's really not a good experience. To further complicate the effort, you can't just move the camera closer either, such events are made to be looked at from far away. If you go up close, any kind of choreography in a concert will look weird and a sports event without a good view of the playfield wouldn't be great either. There might be ways to work around that, by leaving camera choice to the user, use of multiple screens, virtual binoculars or whatever. But it's far from a straight forward process. Meta themselves still hasn't even managed to properly broadcast their own conferences in a VR format, it's all still just flat 2D videos. When the action happens closer to the camera things get much easier, something like a boxing match with VR180-3D cameras in the corners might work well enough. Can't point to any real examples, but here is a fictional one[1] of how a fight might look in VR. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2RqR6MtwG8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2RqR6MtwG8
- duxup 4y ago
  Yeah that's kinda what I assumed. TY for the comment. I got to a lot of sporting events, I'm moving my head / eyes, refocusing constantly, specifically closer to the action. I don't know how VR could capture all that visual data effectively and allow me to just look around.
rngname22 4y ago
Have you experienced VR film? Stereographic 180 degree SBS video? You'd just need something like ZCam k1 pro camera (although most videographers are using better stuff by now) that can do livestreaming and the big issue is dealing with heat + battery limitations at this point. "just watching a video" makes me think maybe you haven't really experienced actual stereo video (3d movies don't count). 360 monoscopic videos like you see on youtube are not stereo video in case people are confused.

tru3_power 4y ago

Another cool application would be home movies. Imagine being able to film your child’s first party from a headset and be able to relive it down the line. Would be pretty dope.