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I'm happy to stand by my comment. Tobacco by comparison causes negligible harm, it's just the callous disrespect for harm to others in comparison to profit that

I'm happy to stand by my comment. Tobacco by comparison causes negligible harm, it's just the callous disrespect for harm to others in comparison to profit that they have in common. Fossil fuel is going to end human civilization as we know it within the lifetime of people born in this century, at current rates. Saying that it has lifted people out of poverty is like saying heroin makes people happy.

politician 4y ago
The device you are typing on is made from materials mined from the planet using the fuel sources you despise.
- barbazoo 4y ago
  To me this comment falls somewhere between "No true Scotsman" and whataboutism. Just because we're benefiting from history, doesn't mean we can't criticize it. Just today, this [1] came out. It's time we use our oil-derived products and wealth to demand change. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/27/world-close-to-irreversible-climate-breakdown-warn-major-studies https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/27/world-cl...
  - UIUC_06 4y ago
    > To me this comment falls somewhere between "No true Scotsman" and whataboutism. Just because we're benefiting from history, doesn't mean we can't criticize it. To me, that's somewhat like: your parents went to college, got good jobs, and sacrificed, all so you could have a better life than they did. But hey, that doesn't mean you can't criticize them for being heteronormative.
prottog 4y ago
> Fossil fuel is going to end human civilization as we know it within the lifetime of people born in this century And New Yorkers in the 1900s thought that the existential crisis facing their city was too much horseshit in the streets, and scientists in the 1960s thought an ice age was imminent. But sure! Civilization will collapse because of fossil fuels. Mark my words: more people will suffer and die in the coming decades from the fallout of so-called "green" policies and the increasingly authoritarian approach to achieve those objectives, than ever will from climate-related disasters. Just look at Sri Lanka for a sneak peek.
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politician 4y ago

The device you are typing on is made from materials mined from the planet using the fuel sources you despise.

barbazoo 4y ago
To me this comment falls somewhere between "No true Scotsman" and whataboutism. Just because we're benefiting from history, doesn't mean we can't criticize it. Just today, this [1] came out. It's time we use our oil-derived products and wealth to demand change. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/27/world-close-to-irreversible-climate-breakdown-warn-major-studies https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/27/world-cl...
- UIUC_06 4y ago
  > To me this comment falls somewhere between "No true Scotsman" and whataboutism. Just because we're benefiting from history, doesn't mean we can't criticize it. To me, that's somewhat like: your parents went to college, got good jobs, and sacrificed, all so you could have a better life than they did. But hey, that doesn't mean you can't criticize them for being heteronormative.

prottog 4y ago

> Fossil fuel is going to end human civilization as we know it within the lifetime of people born in this century And New Yorkers in the 1900s thought that the existential crisis facing their city was too much horseshit in the streets, and scientists in the 1960s thought an ice age was imminent. But sure! Civilization will collapse because of fossil fuels. Mark my words: more people will suffer and die in the coming decades from the fallout of so-called "green" policies and the increasingly authoritarian approach to achieve those objectives, than ever will from climate-related disasters. Just look at Sri Lanka for a sneak peek.

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