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There is an interaction-free solution; it's called 'do not track' (as in, not tracking users). The EU don't mandate it, since that would probably be considered

There is an interaction-free solution; it's called 'do not track' (as in, not tracking users). The EU don't mandate it, since that would probably be considered over-reach: if Web sites want to break their UI and annoy their users, they're free to do so. Consent for personal data is implied when performing services for a user (e.g. logging in, shopping carts, remembering high-scores, etc.). Interactions are only needed when consent is not implied; i.e. when the personal data is not performing a service for a user; i.e. when the user is the product, not the customer.

coldtea 4y ago
>There is an interaction-free solution; it's called 'do not track' (as in, not tracking users). The EU don't mandate it If it's not mandated it's not a solution, it's more like a pacifist asking for peace in the middle of WWII >The EU don't mandate it, since that would probably be considered over-reach I don't think that's the reason, as it wouldn't be any more overeach than mandating the current cookie notice (or, in another domain, USB-C for mobile phones).
- viraptor 4y ago
  > than mandating the current cookie notice That's not mandated. You need to notify the users about third parties getting their data and allow them to opt-out. The cookie notice is just a common, terrible implementation of that requirement. > or, in another domain, USB-C for mobile phones They didn't do that either. They forced the relevant companies to agree to a standard until next review and the agreement was USB-C. No specific solution was mandated.
- chriswarbo 4y ago
  > I don't think that's the reason, as it wouldn't be any more overeach than mandating the current cookie notice As viraptor says, cookie banners are not mandated; they're a crappy UX invented by ad companies. In any case, regardless of one's personal opinions on user tracking, I don't understand how 'cookie notices' are at all equivalent to a flat-out ban on all tracking by anyone ever.

coldtea 4y ago

>There is an interaction-free solution; it's called 'do not track' (as in, not tracking users). The EU don't mandate it If it's not mandated it's not a solution, it's more like a pacifist asking for peace in the middle of WWII >The EU don't mandate it, since that would probably be considered over-reach I don't think that's the reason, as it wouldn't be any more overeach than mandating the current cookie notice (or, in another domain, USB-C for mobile phones).

viraptor 4y ago
> than mandating the current cookie notice That's not mandated. You need to notify the users about third parties getting their data and allow them to opt-out. The cookie notice is just a common, terrible implementation of that requirement. > or, in another domain, USB-C for mobile phones They didn't do that either. They forced the relevant companies to agree to a standard until next review and the agreement was USB-C. No specific solution was mandated.
chriswarbo 4y ago
> I don't think that's the reason, as it wouldn't be any more overeach than mandating the current cookie notice As viraptor says, cookie banners are not mandated; they're a crappy UX invented by ad companies. In any case, regardless of one's personal opinions on user tracking, I don't understand how 'cookie notices' are at all equivalent to a flat-out ban on all tracking by anyone ever.