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> No programmer I know is using it and I've never met one who has been. Perhaps it's the circles and companies you've worked for? You either don't know many p

> No programmer I know is using it and I've never met one who has been. Perhaps it's the circles and companies you've worked for? You either don't know many programmers, or they're not being forthcoming with you about such personal matters.

ativzzz 4y ago
or they're working in environments where people aren't trying to crush every bit of productivity they can
- herbst 4y ago
  This. Sure Ritalin is readily available here in Switzerland, as well as Adderal or even better straight up Dextro amphetamines. However only very few of my peers went into working directions where it even makes sense to push yourself so hard.
  - menaerus 4y ago
    I'm not exposed to people consuming such stuff nor have I had it but I'm intrigued to read that people actually use drugs to boost their performance in their day job. I understand the high pressure and high performing environments, however, what I do not understand is how do these drugs help you in that respect? I figure that it could help you in short-term peaks but what about if you're working in the environment where high expectations are a constant and so the pressure is as well? Care to share some details? Thanks!
    - pengaru 4y ago
      > I'm intrigued to read that people actually use drugs to boost their performance in their day job. Give me a break dude, what do you think Coffee is?
    - herbst 4y ago
      It's just performance, getting less tired, etc. It's coffee for stupid adults. It's not short term if you don't stop using it. If you want to actually benefit from 'illegal' drugs in a work environment look into microdosing psychodelics.
      - nerpderp82 4y ago
        > It's coffee for stupid adults. It isn't. The side effects of adderall are lower than that of coffee and way more effective at dealing with the symptoms of ADHD.
Beltalowda 4y ago
Many of my friends are programmers, and I have pretty open conversations with most of them. I know a few of them who have or still use various recreational drugs. I don't know anyone who uses Adderall. Maybe it's different where ever you live, but in my neck of the woods "using Adderall to stay on top of things" seem virtually unheard of.
- pengaru 4y ago
  > Maybe it's different where ever you live, but in my neck of the woods "using Adderall to stay on top of things" seem virtually unheard of. The tone you're using here seems quite judgemental to me. If I had to, I'd bet anyone working near you detects the same and is not going to be open with you about their use of such things.
  - Beltalowda 4y ago
    > I'd bet anyone working near you detects the same and is not going to be open with you about their use of such things. If you only knew how ridiculous that statement is you wouldn't have made it. I don't understand why you keep insisting that everyone in the world must have the same habits as the people you know, or that there must somehow be something wrong with people ("no programmer friends", "judgemental attitude") if that's not the case.
    - pengaru 4y ago
      > I don't understand why you keep insisting that everyone in the world must have the same habits as the people you know My mistake, I assumed we were talking about the USA. In the US ADHD meds are commonplace, without even considering knowledge workers using them for increased performance.

ativzzz 4y ago

or they're working in environments where people aren't trying to crush every bit of productivity they can

herbst 4y ago
This. Sure Ritalin is readily available here in Switzerland, as well as Adderal or even better straight up Dextro amphetamines. However only very few of my peers went into working directions where it even makes sense to push yourself so hard.
- menaerus 4y ago
  I'm not exposed to people consuming such stuff nor have I had it but I'm intrigued to read that people actually use drugs to boost their performance in their day job. I understand the high pressure and high performing environments, however, what I do not understand is how do these drugs help you in that respect? I figure that it could help you in short-term peaks but what about if you're working in the environment where high expectations are a constant and so the pressure is as well? Care to share some details? Thanks!
  - pengaru 4y ago
    > I'm intrigued to read that people actually use drugs to boost their performance in their day job. Give me a break dude, what do you think Coffee is?
  - herbst 4y ago
    It's just performance, getting less tired, etc. It's coffee for stupid adults. It's not short term if you don't stop using it. If you want to actually benefit from 'illegal' drugs in a work environment look into microdosing psychodelics.
    - nerpderp82 4y ago
      > It's coffee for stupid adults. It isn't. The side effects of adderall are lower than that of coffee and way more effective at dealing with the symptoms of ADHD.

Beltalowda 4y ago

Many of my friends are programmers, and I have pretty open conversations with most of them. I know a few of them who have or still use various recreational drugs. I don't know anyone who uses Adderall. Maybe it's different where ever you live, but in my neck of the woods "using Adderall to stay on top of things" seem virtually unheard of.

pengaru 4y ago
> Maybe it's different where ever you live, but in my neck of the woods "using Adderall to stay on top of things" seem virtually unheard of. The tone you're using here seems quite judgemental to me. If I had to, I'd bet anyone working near you detects the same and is not going to be open with you about their use of such things.
- Beltalowda 4y ago
  > I'd bet anyone working near you detects the same and is not going to be open with you about their use of such things. If you only knew how ridiculous that statement is you wouldn't have made it. I don't understand why you keep insisting that everyone in the world must have the same habits as the people you know, or that there must somehow be something wrong with people ("no programmer friends", "judgemental attitude") if that's not the case.
  - pengaru 4y ago
    > I don't understand why you keep insisting that everyone in the world must have the same habits as the people you know My mistake, I assumed we were talking about the USA. In the US ADHD meds are commonplace, without even considering knowledge workers using them for increased performance.