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>It is how virtually every other representative democracy with a presidential system elects their executive leaders. And which countries are those? Russia Tur
by midoridensha 4y ago
>It is how virtually every other representative democracy with a presidential system elects their executive leaders.
And which countries are those?
Russia
Turkey
El Salvador
Philippines
Not exactly paragons of democracy.
Face it: the Presidential system itself is a disaster. A Parliamentary system is what you want if you want a democratic country with high-quality governance.
- stevenwoo 4y agoJust please without the weaknesses of the UK system, Boris Johnson, Theresa May Liz Truss, and Rishi Sunak in short order with mostly only input from hardcore party members is terrible form of democracy. The Lords system also is pretty bad as well though of less importance now versus something like US Senate.
- Arainach 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_system_of_government#Presidential_systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_system_of... The list is far longer than that.
- kcplate 4y agoHow many of those countries on that list would you put forth as good examples of a stable political system? I counted five, and that’s being fairly generous since two of the five has had some political upheaval in the last 50 years.
- Arainach 4y agoI'd say that the election system for most of them inspires more confidence than the US at that point. At least they have the decency to train their vote-rigging poll watchers in private rather than in public. https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/07/politics/michigan-gop-poll-worker-training-invs/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/07/politics/michigan-gop-poll-wo...
- kcplate 4y agoThere is not a single country on that list that I would prefer to live in over the US..mainly because of political stability. Not saying the US is perfect, but I’d say it’s damn sure more stable than virtually every other country on the list.
- midoridensha 4y agoYeah, I just picked some representative examples out of that list. Check out the others: Brazil, Ecuador, Kenya, Liberia, Mexico, Paraguay, Venezuela, Zimbabwe for a few. None of these are what I'd consider stable, prosperous, well-run nations.
- Arainach 4y agoFrance, Portugal, South Korea, Ukraine, Romania, Costa Rica, Taiwan.....it's almost like you're intentionally ignoring all of the presidencies that meet your criteria.
- kcplate 4y agoFrance is on a different list than the one that is anchor linked, as well as the other countries you mentioned other than Costa Rica.
- Arainach 4y agoAs is Russia, which was an example in the original post I replied to.
- midoridensha 4y agoNone of those (except Costa Rica) are in the list of Presidential systems without a Prime Minister. France is in the list of "semi-presidential" systems. Look at the first list, the one the USA is in. I also don't consider Costa Rica to be a "prosperous" nation. It's probably the only one in that whole list I'd consider living in besides the US though, because at least it isn't a war-torn or authoritarian hellhole, but it's not exactly an economic power either.