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They succeeded in Europe, no? Any public land hunters over there?

• iLoveOncall 4y ago
  • baud147258 4y ago
    on the other hand, since a lot of predators animals in France have been hunted to extinction there, in certain areas hunting is used to keep the population of certain wild animals in check
    • iLoveOncall 4y ago
      • giraffe_lady 4y ago
        I think you're assuming the culture around hunting is the same in france as in the place you're from but it isn't really. The class connotations are almost flipped from the US, it's much more of "rural gentry" thing than what you're thinking of.
        • iLoveOncall 4y ago
          • sbaiddn 4y ago
          • barry-cotter 4y ago
      • knaekhoved 4y ago
  • _notreallyme_ 4y ago
    I don't think it would actually be the case: Banning hunting as a hobby would be a massive win. There is an artificial imbalance in the ecosystems introduced by hunters who feed specific animals at certain times in order to have more, and thus easier to hunt, preys. Because of that, there is a need to restore a viable ecosystem in some areas. This kind of thing should not be let to the "elite", but to professionals...
    • iLoveOncall 4y ago
      Well yes my point was there would just be a lot less if it was only for the elite.
      • HarryHirsch 4y ago
        You wish - the pestilential whitetail deer multiply without anyone's help and destroy tree seedlings and even peoples' gardens. When you encounter skeletal deer that look as if they has escaped Auschwitz you know that hunting increases animal welfare.
        • collegeburner 4y ago
          yeah facts and this is to say nothing of how overpopulation has spread chronic wasting disease (nasty ass prion) around a lot. and if you think deer are bad try feral hogs... nasty, can kill you, aggressive, tear up anything and everything.
    • zoklet-enjoyer 4y ago
      Most hunters aren't feeding animals.
      • topspin 4y ago
        Hmm. Where I am there are a number of "Deer Feed" sellers and the buyers bring large trucks. Serious hunters do indeed attract animals with food. In general you're correct, most hunters don't. But some hunters -- particularly the ones that hunt the most -- do feed prey. On the high end of that histogram are people that acquire property in communities that are designed to accommodate hunters. They feed a lot of game.
  • metadat 4y ago
    Parent may be thinking of: French hunters react angrily to drinking ban plan to reduce accidental deaths https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33100432 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33100432 (21 days ago; 14 points, 8 comments)
    • iLoveOncall 4y ago
      • CSSer 4y ago
        This is wild. Is the land very flat? At least in my state, you’re required to complete a Hunter education course and pass a written, proctored exam starting at age 12. It was at least 75% safety. We were taught to always know what we’re shooting at and what’s behind what we’re shooting at. You would lose your license if you shot a fawn, even if it were an accident, simply because saying it was an accident meant you clearly couldn’t see it. We were also taught how far a high-powered rifle round can travel. We wouldn’t even shoot up ridges. If what you’re saying is true, then the only explanations I can think of is that either people shouldn’t be hunting there because of geography or these hunting rules and regulations around safety are garbage.
      • Rebelgecko 4y ago
        Why are French hunters so incompetent compared to other countries? Different attitudes towards intoxication?
        • laurencerowe 4y ago
          France seems to have a similar rate of hunting deaths to the USA. > According to information released by the International Hunter Education Association, the U.S. and Canada combined see around 1,000 hunting accidents, specifically involving shooting injuries, on an annual basis. Moreover, close to 10% of these hunting accidents end in death. https://accident.laws.com/hunting-accidents https://accident.laws.com/hunting-accidents > Since 2000, there have been 3,325 hunting accidents in France, of which 421 were fatal, figures from l'Office français de la biodiversité and la Fédération nationale de la chasse show. > This is equivalent to 158 accidents per year, with 20 deaths. https://www.connexionfrance.com/article/French-news/How-often-do-hunting-accidents-happen-in-France https://www.connexionfrance.com/article/French-news/How-ofte... France is just under 1/5 the population of USA and Canada combined. Perhaps it’s just that firearm deaths are so much more common in the USA (12.21/100k vs 2.33/100k) the hunting deaths are less notable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-r...
• collegeburner 4y ago
  i mean that by itself is not conclusive. in Texas it's almost all private hunting land but it's plenty egalitarian.
  • MandieD 4y ago
    It’s become less egalitarian over my lifetime. When I was a kid, my working class dad and a few buddies would rent a deer lease each year, doing maintenance work in the summer and fall, then going out over the weekend in season. These deer leases were usually part of a ranch. They lost their last one because the heirs were uninterested in ranching and sold to someone much wealthier in Dallas who wanted it just for hunting. They weren’t able to find a similar situation because ranches were getting bought up by other wealthier hunters.
• paganel 4y ago
  > Any public land hunters over there? France is an infamous example. Over here in Romania there are still pockets of "common people" going hunting, but they're on their way out, it has slowly become a rich person activity.
• weberer 4y ago
  In Finland you can hunt wherever you want, even on someone else's property. It's called "everyman's rights".