> Something I find interesting about this discussion is that Rust seems to be held to a significantly higher standard than any other language developed in the l

> Something I find interesting about this discussion is that Rust seems to be held to a significantly higher standard than any other language developed in the last 30 years. It's not. Rust lags way behind the standards help for decades by languages which the Rust community repeatedly claims Rust is supposed to replace. Rust has in no way, shape or form anything resembling an effort to specify it's core language and standard library in an international standard. Standards are critical because they are objective, clear, and well thought through specifications of how the language works now and anywhere, including and specially clean room implementations. > I don't think I've ever seen someone lament that Swift or Go or Typescript or Dart or $ANY_LANG don't have an ISO spec. Most of the top programming languages already are specified in international standards. Including JavaScript. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Programming_languages_with_an_ISO_standard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Programming_languages... Also, all of your examples, arguably with the exception of Go, are still in very early and unstable development stages, with projects repeatedly introducing breaking changes. If even the language designers don't make up their minds over what goes into it then we can't really talk about stability.