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Because the number of variables, an experienced human driver has to be ready to make decisions that they can't specifically train for. What AI can reach that de

Because the number of variables, an experienced human driver has to be ready to make decisions that they can't specifically train for. What AI can reach that deep? I once had a few seconds to choose between 1) a multi-vehicle collision at 60mph with oncoming vehicles in both lanes that had a steep up-hillside to their right (one was a gasoline tanker), and 2) getting my vehicle stopped on a two-foot shoulder with a long steep 45-degree down-hillside next to it (no guard rail). I would NOT have wanted computer assistance, thanks anyway.

jaimex2 4y ago
Any. You're describing the trolley problem which is silly. The car should be traveling at a speed where it can break and stay in its lane to avoid any at fault accident. Nothing more, nothing less.
- akira2501 4y ago
  You're describing a utopia where outcomes are perfectly predictable, which is silly. "And roads should be without any defect, weather should never happen, pedestrians and other drivers should always behave rationally, and black ice is not legally allowed to exist."
  - 8bitsrule 4y ago
    Exactly. The real world that real people have to drive in is far, far more complex than these sloppy machines could ever know. The map is not the territory.
- tim333 4y ago
  I was going to say, the vast majority of weird near crash situations can be dealt with by slowing/stopping. That is probably not so hard to program in and not so different from what humans do.
  - 8bitsrule 4y ago
    As of a few years back, the 'FSD' Tesla had failed to detect several parked police cars, a parked firetruck, a moving semi pulling in front of it, and a concrete lane divider, all of which it struck without slowing down at all. At least two dead operators.
- 8bitsrule 4y ago
  Silly remark. The trolley problem involves the unavoidable death of at least one party - the decider is not among those who die. Not analogous. The Uber that killed Elaine Herzberg in 2018 failed to solve the only problem it had. Did the CPU die? Did Uber or Uber's president? My decision saved the 3 lives in the oncoming vehicles (including the idiot who decided to try passing the gasoline tanker in their rattletrap), as well as my own and those of the two additional children I eventually had (and their children).

jaimex2 4y ago

Any. You're describing the trolley problem which is silly. The car should be traveling at a speed where it can break and stay in its lane to avoid any at fault accident. Nothing more, nothing less.

akira2501 4y ago
You're describing a utopia where outcomes are perfectly predictable, which is silly. "And roads should be without any defect, weather should never happen, pedestrians and other drivers should always behave rationally, and black ice is not legally allowed to exist."
- 8bitsrule 4y ago
  Exactly. The real world that real people have to drive in is far, far more complex than these sloppy machines could ever know. The map is not the territory.
tim333 4y ago
I was going to say, the vast majority of weird near crash situations can be dealt with by slowing/stopping. That is probably not so hard to program in and not so different from what humans do.
- 8bitsrule 4y ago
  As of a few years back, the 'FSD' Tesla had failed to detect several parked police cars, a parked firetruck, a moving semi pulling in front of it, and a concrete lane divider, all of which it struck without slowing down at all. At least two dead operators.
8bitsrule 4y ago
Silly remark. The trolley problem involves the unavoidable death of at least one party - the decider is not among those who die. Not analogous. The Uber that killed Elaine Herzberg in 2018 failed to solve the only problem it had. Did the CPU die? Did Uber or Uber's president? My decision saved the 3 lives in the oncoming vehicles (including the idiot who decided to try passing the gasoline tanker in their rattletrap), as well as my own and those of the two additional children I eventually had (and their children).