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My Quest Pro arrived yesterday. It’s the coolest new computer I’ve used since the iPad. They’re getting close to nailing the mixed reality form factor. At the
by pavlov 4y ago
My Quest Pro arrived yesterday. It’s the coolest new computer I’ve used since the iPad. They’re getting close to nailing the mixed reality form factor.
At the same time it feels like the Apple Lisa. Expensive hardware that’s clearly still not quite the end state, shipping with first-party software that’s barely past demo quality. There’s simply not very much to do on the Quest Pro so far, and the HoloLens trajectory suggests that real apps will be slow to arrive.
Still, it’s an entirely new style of computing and Meta has subsidized it by tens of billions of dollars already. I’ll try to enjoy it while it lasts.
- umeshunni 4y ago> Expensive hardware that’s clearly still not quite the end state, shipping with first-party software that’s barely past demo quality. "Built for a Future That Still Isn't Here" is a headline I saw somewhere that resonates well with your comment.
- spaceman_2020 4y ago"Built for a future that no one even wants or asked for"
- colinmhayes 4y agoI want metaverse content. Still waiting for the matrix.
- bergenty 4y agoSpeak for yourself. I want solid VR and AR and everything past that. Why wouldn’t you?
- asdff 4y agoYou are going to have engineers using ten orders of magnitude more computational resources to open a text editor like they've been doing for 50 years. It's tech for the sake of tech until someone can come up with an actually novel use case that isn't just window dressing on stuff I can already do.
- spaceman_2020 4y agoIt also has a physical barrier that seems insurmountable - motion sickness-induced nausea. If even a small % of your users get nauseated when using it, the network effects fall apart completely. Zuck wants to use VR headsets for meetings, but what happens if one person can't use VR because it makes them nauseated? Do you continue the meeting without them, get them to switch to some hybrid Zoom/VR model, or drop the VR altogether? What if that person is a client, a senior exec, or a decision maker?
- paganel 4y agoNot the OP, but I personally find it a little creepy and more than dystopic. Also, I can pet my dog and even throw him a ball while writing comments on HN, but the VR thing will totally isolate me from him (and the AR thing won't bring anything new to the table, I already know my dog's name, don't need to see it labeled via AR). And even so, I try to limit the time I spent in front of my computer, glueing even more immersive computers to our faces won't do us any good.
- spaceman_2020 4y agoIf that VR and AR is from Facebook, then nah. The last thing I want is living inside Zuck's abominations.
- awestroke 4y ago> There’s simply not very much to do on the Quest Pro so far, and the HoloLens trajectory suggests that real apps will be slow to arrive. Can't you play Quest 2 games on it?
- pavlov 4y agoYes, but I’m not really interested in games. This device feels like a novel type of computer with no apps.
- cableshaft 4y agoIt's at least backwards compatible with existing Quest 2 apps, and I've already started seeing "Quest Pro Update" on a few Quest Store apps, so hopefully you'll start seeing some software that targets it better soon.
- hbn 4y ago> It’s the coolest new computer I’ve used since the iPad. It doesn't inspire much confidence in me to compare it to the product that everyone thought was cool when it came out but over a decade later, even the company making it still doesn't know exactly what it's for outside of a few niche use-cases.
- nikcub 4y agoI was speaking to a high school teacher who said students come through her computer classes now having no idea how to type or use desktop operating systems because they're the first generation who have largely, and almost exclusively, been on iPad's and phones.
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- tomjakubowski 4y agoApple sold more than 500 million iPads over the product's first decade.
- hbn 4y agoI never said it was a failure. But it's certainly a supplementary device for most people. If all iPads disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow, it wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal compared to if that happened with smartphones or laptops or PCs, etc. Meta has a big hurdle to overcome to make success out of a device with no real practical use so far, and one that you have to strap to your face.
- tomjakubowski 4y agoFor many people, and maybe most younger people, PCs are a supplemental device. I know a few folks who have an iPad and a smartphone but no personal laptop. To your point, though, I think more do get by with just the phone.
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- smilebot 4y agoYour username is a game I love playing on my Quest 2. Streamed from my beefy PC ofc. CS 1.6 on VR. What a time to be alive!
- itsyaboi 4y agoThere is a native version of Pavlov available on the Quest, no PC necessary. One of my favorite games!
- moneycantbuy 4y ago
- jjulius 4y agoTheir profile suggests that that company was bought by FB and that they now work elsewhere. Assume good intentions. Maybe put the keyboard down, take a walk and get some deep breaths in.
- crims0n 4y agoAgreed - I actually did some real work in Horizon Workrooms today with a pass through keyboard and three large monitors streaming from my MacBook. Feels like they are getting really close. Those pancake lenses are truly a next-gen improvement.
- bradneuberg 4y agoI actually did the same with my Quest Pro that I got recently, pretty cool.
- cheriot 4y agoI've not seen many people comment on text legibility. How's reading compare to your normal monitor?
- crims0n 4y agoIt's definitely a subpar experience, but for the first time it feels usable. Each screen is about the equivalent of a 55" 1080p monitor 5ft from your face.
- cheriot 4y agoAppreciate the description. Hopefully the next generation will be on par with modern monitors for text. I'm starting to come around to the idea that VR could be a great monitor setup at the right resolution.
- tru3_power 4y agoI felt the same way when I tried it out today! It was kinda buggy, but once I was able to get it working and clear (adjusting the lens/depth) it was actually pretty cool. Overall I didn’t think it was really ready for market from what I was seeing, but it was a really rad experience.