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What if Tesla are safer than a regular driver? What if they actually saved lives? There is plenty of video evidence of that: https://youtu.be/hF96jQ0SY8w http

by alfor 4y ago

What if Tesla are safer than a regular driver? What if they actually saved lives? There is plenty of video evidence of that: https://youtu.be/hF96jQ0SY8w https://youtu.be/hF96jQ0SY8w Would we try to stop it? A lot of companies would like to stop it, that’s for sure. There no doubt that a computer will match a human, than exceed its capability, 24x7, never tired, never distracted. For the moment, every drive has to acknowledge that they are responsible, need to keep the control and have to stay vigilant every time they use self-driving. It seems to me that take precedence to the product brochure or random comment in a tweet a few years ago. Of course this comment is going to be heavily downvote like everything positive about Tesla here. I wonder why?

shadowpho 4y ago
>What if Tesla are safer than a regular driver? And what if they are not? Furthermore to me the issue is not safety vs not-safety, but the advertisement is clearly misleading at least >For the moment, every drive has to acknowledge that they are responsible, need to keep the control and have to stay vigilant every time they use self-driving. It seems to me that take precedence to the product brochure... Maybe we should hold the company to make sure the product brochure is truthful. Because if people trust the brochure they might die over it.
- alfor 4y ago
  Maybe. On their site: https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/autopilot "Current Autopilot features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous." It’s clear they are working toward full self driving but it’s not there yet. "The future use of these features without supervision is dependent on achieving reliability far in excess of human drivers as demonstrated by billions of miles of experience, as well as regulatory approval, which may take longer in some jurisdictions. As these self-driving capabilities are introduced, your car will be continuously upgraded through over-the-air software updates."
mikestew 4y ago
What if Tesla are safer than a regular driver? And what if a frog had wings? Why, it wouldn't bump its ass when it hops! I wonder why? Probably not what you're thinking, but I'd guess a lot of "what if..." with a single, carefully-selected video to back the hypotheticals.
- alfor 4y ago
  My point is that the tech is improving, we can aim for maximum safety and regulations but at the end would it save live or destroy more with the status quo. There is a cost both ways, we are used to pay the cost of the status quo, it feel easier to push back against progress.
krisoft 4y ago
> What if Tesla are safer than a regular driver? What if they actually saved lives? There is plenty of video evidence of that "video evidence" is not the kind of evidence which can demonstrate that. The kind of evidence which could demonstrate that Teslas are safer than a regular driver would be statistics. Statistics which by the way is available to Tesla, and they could let researchers scrutinise if they choose to do so.

by alfor 4y ago

shadowpho 4y ago

>What if Tesla are safer than a regular driver? And what if they are not? Furthermore to me the issue is not safety vs not-safety, but the advertisement is clearly misleading at least >For the moment, every drive has to acknowledge that they are responsible, need to keep the control and have to stay vigilant every time they use self-driving. It seems to me that take precedence to the product brochure... Maybe we should hold the company to make sure the product brochure is truthful. Because if people trust the brochure they might die over it.

alfor 4y ago
Maybe. On their site: https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/autopilot "Current Autopilot features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous." It’s clear they are working toward full self driving but it’s not there yet. "The future use of these features without supervision is dependent on achieving reliability far in excess of human drivers as demonstrated by billions of miles of experience, as well as regulatory approval, which may take longer in some jurisdictions. As these self-driving capabilities are introduced, your car will be continuously upgraded through over-the-air software updates."

mikestew 4y ago

What if Tesla are safer than a regular driver? And what if a frog had wings? Why, it wouldn't bump its ass when it hops! I wonder why? Probably not what you're thinking, but I'd guess a lot of "what if..." with a single, carefully-selected video to back the hypotheticals.

alfor 4y ago
My point is that the tech is improving, we can aim for maximum safety and regulations but at the end would it save live or destroy more with the status quo. There is a cost both ways, we are used to pay the cost of the status quo, it feel easier to push back against progress.

krisoft 4y ago

> What if Tesla are safer than a regular driver? What if they actually saved lives? There is plenty of video evidence of that "video evidence" is not the kind of evidence which can demonstrate that. The kind of evidence which could demonstrate that Teslas are safer than a regular driver would be statistics. Statistics which by the way is available to Tesla, and they could let researchers scrutinise if they choose to do so.