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PayPal quietly re-adds $2,500 “misinformation charge” in user agreement

39 points by codefreeordie 4y ago

codefreeordie 4y ago
I couldn't find a good article talking about the topic that was from a vaguely neutral site, so I've simply linked directly to the user agreement. Search for "$2,500" and you'll find the paragraph which is almost exactly (or perhaps exactly) the same as the original language that they said was added "by mistake" a few weeks ago.
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
  That would be this paragraph in an archive from today https://archive.ph/mC1Yr#selection-3685.0-3685.1091 https://archive.ph/mC1Yr#selection-3685.0-3685.1091
mikece 4y ago
The fact they said it was "mistakenly added" to a policy document that had to go through multiple layers of management and lawyers before becoming public makes it hard to believe it was ever an accident. I'm more curious who is lobbying for such a condition in the first place.
- codefreeordie 4y ago
  This is primarily a way for PayPal to take money from people, but it is also a way to bully people that PayPal is mistreating into silence: not worth getting dinged $2,500 every time you post a tweet critical of PayPal for stealing from you
  - cyanydeez 4y ago
    Or a way to avoid platforms that are only viable by producing misinformation.
- alexfromapex 4y ago
  ESG is more than likely the cause - https://investor.pypl.com/esg-strategy/default.aspx https://investor.pypl.com/esg-strategy/default.aspx
  - actually_a_dog 4y ago
    Can you elaborate? I don't feel like gesturing broadly at a concept is really making whatever point you intend to make.
    - alexfromapex 4y ago
      > We strive to ensure our platform is safe and secure for all to use and expect all customers to comply with our Acceptable Use Policy, which outlines prohibited activities and conduct, including the use of our services to promote hate, violence and intolerance (including racial intolerance). We take this responsibility seriously and conduct independent investigations of product misuse using all available information, while also working to proactively identify instances of noncompliance. https://s26.q4cdn.com/519805829/files/doc_downloads/PayPal-2021-Global-Impact-Report.pdf https://s26.q4cdn.com/519805829/files/doc_downloads/PayPal-2... > Compliant, ethical & humane use of our products
fsflover 4y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33348913 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33348913

39 points by codefreeordie 4y ago

I couldn't find a good article talking about the topic that was from a vaguely neutral site, so I've simply linked directly to the user agreement. Search for "$2,500" and you'll find the paragraph which is almost exactly (or perhaps exactly) the same as the original language that they said was added "by mistake" a few weeks ago.

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
That would be this paragraph in an archive from today https://archive.ph/mC1Yr#selection-3685.0-3685.1091 https://archive.ph/mC1Yr#selection-3685.0-3685.1091

mikece 4y ago

The fact they said it was "mistakenly added" to a policy document that had to go through multiple layers of management and lawyers before becoming public makes it hard to believe it was ever an accident. I'm more curious who is lobbying for such a condition in the first place.

codefreeordie 4y ago
This is primarily a way for PayPal to take money from people, but it is also a way to bully people that PayPal is mistreating into silence: not worth getting dinged $2,500 every time you post a tweet critical of PayPal for stealing from you
- cyanydeez 4y ago
  Or a way to avoid platforms that are only viable by producing misinformation.
alexfromapex 4y ago
ESG is more than likely the cause - https://investor.pypl.com/esg-strategy/default.aspx https://investor.pypl.com/esg-strategy/default.aspx
- actually_a_dog 4y ago
  Can you elaborate? I don't feel like gesturing broadly at a concept is really making whatever point you intend to make.
  - alexfromapex 4y ago
    > We strive to ensure our platform is safe and secure for all to use and expect all customers to comply with our Acceptable Use Policy, which outlines prohibited activities and conduct, including the use of our services to promote hate, violence and intolerance (including racial intolerance). We take this responsibility seriously and conduct independent investigations of product misuse using all available information, while also working to proactively identify instances of noncompliance. https://s26.q4cdn.com/519805829/files/doc_downloads/PayPal-2021-Global-Impact-Report.pdf https://s26.q4cdn.com/519805829/files/doc_downloads/PayPal-2... > Compliant, ethical & humane use of our products

fsflover 4y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33348913 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33348913