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This comment is getting downvoted because of poor wording. The accusations of racism are excessive and it's obvious these people have a pointless axe to grind.

This comment is getting downvoted because of poor wording. The accusations of racism are excessive and it's obvious these people have a pointless axe to grind. I think what OP is trying to say is this: 1. There is a biological component to intelligence. This doesn't imply race. If it was possible to reach 200 IQ with hard work a lot more people would be there. 2. Breaking scores down by ethnicity may elucidate data that imply the poor level of education of this cohort in general may be leading to inappropriately reduced performance in schools. Anecdotally, I have family that teach at title 1 schools that deal with immigrants that have little command of English. The result is as expected, universally they do remarkably poorly on every test. Children of this cohort also do poorly. The schools, unfortunately, are punished severely. Not speaking English except at school has a dramatic effect on ones ability to learn if you have no command of the lingua franca. The cost to double classes and have special Spanish classes, for example, is not only expensive but does not prepare a child for existing in a world where everything is in English. I think OP could've worded things better but regardless there is some truth to it. If we extrapolate test scores from title 1 schools to this population it calls into question: are we doing enough and should we inappropriately punish schools for taking this additional burden on? It is clear immigration does not correlate to ability to learn. However, this cohort of amnesty recipients are a special case. I am convinced other comments cannot read, or willfully misread OP, in order to signal their virtue.

feoren 4y ago
> 1. There is a biological component to intelligence. This doesn't imply race. Your statement doesn't imply race, but GP's statement most certainly does. > should we inappropriately punish schools Absolutely not; who in their right mind would want to "punish" schools for having under-performing students? If anything it's a sign those schools may need more investment.
- Test0129 4y ago
  > who in their right mind would want to "punish" schools for having under-performing students? If anything it's a sign those schools may need more investment. The US government who issues funding via Title 1 using a formula. In this case they take on people who legitimately should be held back, they fail the standardized tests, the government says "we can't give you more money because you're failing" and the cycle continues. Ostensibly this system worked because schools that cant raise low income/low education people up dont deserve money. The problem occurs when they also can't hold people back until they are up to the standard. We aren't doing enough, and I agree, these schools shouldn't be punished.
AnimalMuppet 4y ago
> it's obvious these people have a pointless axe to grind. > I am convinced other comments cannot read, or willfully misread OP, in order to signal their virtue. You are interpreting ParksNet's comment charitably. You aren't doing the same for those who replied to it. (In fact, you're very close to breaking the site guidelines, both on charitable interpretation and on personal attacks.) For the record, I replied before ParksNet edited their comment to be less "if our demographics look like Central America, our school outcomes will look like Central America", which seemed more directly racist.

feoren 4y ago

> 1. There is a biological component to intelligence. This doesn't imply race. Your statement doesn't imply race, but GP's statement most certainly does. > should we inappropriately punish schools Absolutely not; who in their right mind would want to "punish" schools for having under-performing students? If anything it's a sign those schools may need more investment.

Test0129 4y ago
> who in their right mind would want to "punish" schools for having under-performing students? If anything it's a sign those schools may need more investment. The US government who issues funding via Title 1 using a formula. In this case they take on people who legitimately should be held back, they fail the standardized tests, the government says "we can't give you more money because you're failing" and the cycle continues. Ostensibly this system worked because schools that cant raise low income/low education people up dont deserve money. The problem occurs when they also can't hold people back until they are up to the standard. We aren't doing enough, and I agree, these schools shouldn't be punished.

AnimalMuppet 4y ago

> it's obvious these people have a pointless axe to grind. > I am convinced other comments cannot read, or willfully misread OP, in order to signal their virtue. You are interpreting ParksNet's comment charitably. You aren't doing the same for those who replied to it. (In fact, you're very close to breaking the site guidelines, both on charitable interpretation and on personal attacks.) For the record, I replied before ParksNet edited their comment to be less "if our demographics look like Central America, our school outcomes will look like Central America", which seemed more directly racist.