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Certainly. This was only the most high profile incident. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-pressured-zelenskyy-ditch-peace-talks-russi

Certainly. This was only the most high profile incident. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-pressured-zelenskyy-ditch-peace-talks-russia-ukrainian-paper https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-p...

_kbh_ 4y ago
> Certainly. This was only the most high profile incident. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-p https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-p... It looks like the article is being misinterpreted. Here’s a comment from the author. > Romaniuk disagrees with Eagleton’s interpretation that Johnson halted the peace deal. “Johnson was one of the people whom Zelensky listened to – not because of a dependence on him, but because of relations of trust”, Romaniuk told us. > Britain’s prime minister hadn’t come to Kyiv to order a termination of the peace deal; this was advice at best, and as such, his scepticism about Russia’s trustworthiness wasn’t unique. > There were strong concerns within Zelensky’s closest entourage that the Kremlin wouldn’t stick to an agreement for any longer than it suited its interests. The risks of signing the Istanbul agreement were high for Ukraine: key provisions, to do with the status of Donbas and Crimea, couldn’t be agreed until a later meeting between the presidents of the two states. > Zelensky and his negotiators’ most important worry about the Istanbul agreement was, Romaniuk said, that “Ukrainian society might not accept such a deal”. > While we don’t know what public opinion was regarding the possible deal in early April, in a survey conducted in mid-May, 82% said that “under no circumstance should Ukraine give up on any of its territory even if it leads to the continuation of the war and threatens its independence”. https://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article7852 https://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article7852
- miguelazo 4y ago
  Really disappointed to see Novara print this drivel, but it tracks with the greater “left’s” failure to see this situation clearly. I actually stopped reading after it discussed the failure of the Minsk Accords— as it totally obscured, if not fabricated the sequence of events. That was completely on the European powers as guarantors, and those who follow closely know that Putin wanted that agreement to be successful (even refusing to recognize the territories as anything more than autonomous Ukrainian provinces, despite their population voting for independence). Even Zelensky went to the East and declared that the war needed to come to an end. The Azov neonazis basically told him he would hang in the streets if he made peace with Russia, and that was that.
  - _kbh_ 4y ago
    > Really disappointed to see Novara print this drivel, but it tracks with the greater “left’s” failure to see this situation clearly. I think the only one who fails to see this situation for what it is, is you. > I actually stopped reading after it discussed the failure of the Minsk Accords— as it totally obscured, if not fabricated the sequence of events. The Minsk accords and many other events are exactly why Ukraine won’t negotiate. Ukraine gave up their nukes for a guarantee from russia, a guarantee that wasn’t kept. Russia is incapable of keeping to agreements it makes when it doesn’t feel like it. > Even Zelensky went to the East and declared that the war needed to come to an end. Source?. > The Azov neonazis basically told him he would hang in the streets if he made peace with Russia, and that was that. Source?. Also how do you feel about the Russian Neonazi Wagner PMC in Ukraine committing war crimes against civilians?.

_kbh_ 4y ago

> Certainly. This was only the most high profile incident. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-p https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-p... It looks like the article is being misinterpreted. Here’s a comment from the author. > Romaniuk disagrees with Eagleton’s interpretation that Johnson halted the peace deal. “Johnson was one of the people whom Zelensky listened to – not because of a dependence on him, but because of relations of trust”, Romaniuk told us. > Britain’s prime minister hadn’t come to Kyiv to order a termination of the peace deal; this was advice at best, and as such, his scepticism about Russia’s trustworthiness wasn’t unique. > There were strong concerns within Zelensky’s closest entourage that the Kremlin wouldn’t stick to an agreement for any longer than it suited its interests. The risks of signing the Istanbul agreement were high for Ukraine: key provisions, to do with the status of Donbas and Crimea, couldn’t be agreed until a later meeting between the presidents of the two states. > Zelensky and his negotiators’ most important worry about the Istanbul agreement was, Romaniuk said, that “Ukrainian society might not accept such a deal”. > While we don’t know what public opinion was regarding the possible deal in early April, in a survey conducted in mid-May, 82% said that “under no circumstance should Ukraine give up on any of its territory even if it leads to the continuation of the war and threatens its independence”. https://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article7852 https://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article7852

miguelazo 4y ago
Really disappointed to see Novara print this drivel, but it tracks with the greater “left’s” failure to see this situation clearly. I actually stopped reading after it discussed the failure of the Minsk Accords— as it totally obscured, if not fabricated the sequence of events. That was completely on the European powers as guarantors, and those who follow closely know that Putin wanted that agreement to be successful (even refusing to recognize the territories as anything more than autonomous Ukrainian provinces, despite their population voting for independence). Even Zelensky went to the East and declared that the war needed to come to an end. The Azov neonazis basically told him he would hang in the streets if he made peace with Russia, and that was that.
- _kbh_ 4y ago
  > Really disappointed to see Novara print this drivel, but it tracks with the greater “left’s” failure to see this situation clearly. I think the only one who fails to see this situation for what it is, is you. > I actually stopped reading after it discussed the failure of the Minsk Accords— as it totally obscured, if not fabricated the sequence of events. The Minsk accords and many other events are exactly why Ukraine won’t negotiate. Ukraine gave up their nukes for a guarantee from russia, a guarantee that wasn’t kept. Russia is incapable of keeping to agreements it makes when it doesn’t feel like it. > Even Zelensky went to the East and declared that the war needed to come to an end. Source?. > The Azov neonazis basically told him he would hang in the streets if he made peace with Russia, and that was that. Source?. Also how do you feel about the Russian Neonazi Wagner PMC in Ukraine committing war crimes against civilians?.