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Sigh … I so much want Apple to get their shit together. To me it feels like software quality reached a new low.

by QuackyTheDuck 4y ago

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gw99 4y ago
The scary thing is it's the least bad option when it comes to overall reliability.
- gtvwill 4y ago
  Ooo that's a big depends on the situation. Making only phone calls. Sure iPhones are great. Running LOB apps. Lol have fun passing that crap through apples store. Androids way easier for LOB. Remote MDM? Lol nightmare using apples gear. Warranty services? Also a nightmare. Fleet level warranty support? Ahahhahhaha have fun paying folks like IBM out the kazoo. No thanks. iPhones are rock solid if you played w Fischer price toys as a kid and only ever plan to be on the public consumer end of the game, making calls and using apps someone else has decided are ok for you. Go up the line to fleet rollout or bulk purchasing/warranty work or running custom line of business apps. Ahahhahhaha have fun w apple I've done the work when I was w/ ibm, I refuse to touch it these days.
  - plugin-baby 4y ago
    What are LOB and MDM?
    - gtvwill 4y ago
      Line of Business, Mobile Device Management.
- codalan 4y ago
  I think it depends on the phone. The Google Pixel series seems pretty solid for reliability. I have a Pixel 7 Pro and it's been really good so far in terms of software and build quality. I strongly prefer it to my iPhone 13 Pro, which I'm currently selling off. But iPhone vs Samsung Galaxy? iPhone wins by a mile. I never got used to the custom interface Samsung loaded onto those phones, and hated that it included Samsung-specific apps that just duplicated those already available by default on stock Android.
  - JamesonNetworks 4y ago
    Pixels had a defect where emergency calls didnt work with MS teams installed. Both platforms wither under the lights
    - Tijdreiziger 4y ago
      They still have problems with emergency calls. https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pixel-phones-struggling-to-reach-emergency/ https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pixel-phones-struggling...
  - gw99 4y ago
    I have an iPhone 13 Pro. I found that Android is almost a brick the moment you lose an Internet connection where as the iPhone is still productive and I can do stuff offline and it'll sync everything later no problems. That is a complete dealbreaker for me for Android. Also, Google.
    - thaumasiotes 4y ago
      I mainly use my phone for three things: 1. Pleco 2. Wechat 3. Kindle app Pleco (a dictionary) and Kindle (an ebook reader) work fine offline. Why wouldn't they? Wechat, of course, can't do anything offline, because it's communication software. It is not even clear what "use wechat offline" would mean. Android itself obviously works equally well whether you're connected to the Internet or not. What do you mean by becoming "almost a brick"?
freeplay 4y ago
Couldn't agree more. As stupid as it may be, the only reason I haven't moved to Andoid/GrapheneOS is iMessage.
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- alphabetting 4y ago
  that's the main reason for most iphone users i know and exactly why Apple will stall for as long as possible on RCS compatibility
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Yes I’m sure that Apple’s 95% retention rate is based on iMessage based on the sample size of “people you know”.
    - alphabetting 4y ago
      I didn't claim that. It's just the main reason for not switching according to my friends. The imessage moat in the US is pretty heavily discussed on here.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        If HN were a representative sample of what most users wanted from their phones you would think they wanted to spend half the day compiling the Linux kernel on their phone and the other half bemoaning if only they had the “right to repair” they could put their own headphone jack on their phone and get rid of those pesky AirPods
        alphabetting 4y ago
        What are you even getting at? I didn't say it was a representative sample, just that it was discussed on here. It's a real thing.
z9znz 4y ago
There were some stubborn bad decisions that Steve Jobs stuck to (1 button mouse, windows that don't appear when you cmd-tab to them), but his Apple seemed to have better software. Since him, it really seems to have gone downhill in terms of bugs and UI consistency.

Sigh … I so much want Apple to get their shit together. To me it feels like software quality reached a new low.

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gw99 4y ago

The scary thing is it's the least bad option when it comes to overall reliability.

gtvwill 4y ago
Ooo that's a big depends on the situation. Making only phone calls. Sure iPhones are great. Running LOB apps. Lol have fun passing that crap through apples store. Androids way easier for LOB. Remote MDM? Lol nightmare using apples gear. Warranty services? Also a nightmare. Fleet level warranty support? Ahahhahhaha have fun paying folks like IBM out the kazoo. No thanks. iPhones are rock solid if you played w Fischer price toys as a kid and only ever plan to be on the public consumer end of the game, making calls and using apps someone else has decided are ok for you. Go up the line to fleet rollout or bulk purchasing/warranty work or running custom line of business apps. Ahahhahhaha have fun w apple I've done the work when I was w/ ibm, I refuse to touch it these days.
- plugin-baby 4y ago
  What are LOB and MDM?
  - gtvwill 4y ago
    Line of Business, Mobile Device Management.
codalan 4y ago
I think it depends on the phone. The Google Pixel series seems pretty solid for reliability. I have a Pixel 7 Pro and it's been really good so far in terms of software and build quality. I strongly prefer it to my iPhone 13 Pro, which I'm currently selling off. But iPhone vs Samsung Galaxy? iPhone wins by a mile. I never got used to the custom interface Samsung loaded onto those phones, and hated that it included Samsung-specific apps that just duplicated those already available by default on stock Android.
- JamesonNetworks 4y ago
  Pixels had a defect where emergency calls didnt work with MS teams installed. Both platforms wither under the lights
  - Tijdreiziger 4y ago
    They still have problems with emergency calls. https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pixel-phones-struggling-to-reach-emergency/ https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pixel-phones-struggling...
- gw99 4y ago
  I have an iPhone 13 Pro. I found that Android is almost a brick the moment you lose an Internet connection where as the iPhone is still productive and I can do stuff offline and it'll sync everything later no problems. That is a complete dealbreaker for me for Android. Also, Google.
  - thaumasiotes 4y ago
    I mainly use my phone for three things: 1. Pleco 2. Wechat 3. Kindle app Pleco (a dictionary) and Kindle (an ebook reader) work fine offline. Why wouldn't they? Wechat, of course, can't do anything offline, because it's communication software. It is not even clear what "use wechat offline" would mean. Android itself obviously works equally well whether you're connected to the Internet or not. What do you mean by becoming "almost a brick"?

freeplay 4y ago

Couldn't agree more. As stupid as it may be, the only reason I haven't moved to Andoid/GrapheneOS is iMessage.

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alphabetting 4y ago
that's the main reason for most iphone users i know and exactly why Apple will stall for as long as possible on RCS compatibility
- scarface74 4y ago
  Yes I’m sure that Apple’s 95% retention rate is based on iMessage based on the sample size of “people you know”.
  - alphabetting 4y ago
    I didn't claim that. It's just the main reason for not switching according to my friends. The imessage moat in the US is pretty heavily discussed on here.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      If HN were a representative sample of what most users wanted from their phones you would think they wanted to spend half the day compiling the Linux kernel on their phone and the other half bemoaning if only they had the “right to repair” they could put their own headphone jack on their phone and get rid of those pesky AirPods
      - alphabetting 4y ago
        What are you even getting at? I didn't say it was a representative sample, just that it was discussed on here. It's a real thing.

z9znz 4y ago

There were some stubborn bad decisions that Steve Jobs stuck to (1 button mouse, windows that don't appear when you cmd-tab to them), but his Apple seemed to have better software. Since him, it really seems to have gone downhill in terms of bugs and UI consistency.