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So, seriously… If Apple starts going down the road of Google, putting ads in everything, then can’t we pretty much be sure that the same perverse incentives th

So, seriously… If Apple starts going down the road of Google, putting ads in everything, then can’t we pretty much be sure that the same perverse incentives that care nothing for our privacy will almost certainly follow, no matter how much Apple protests that they won’t do that? And if so, why should we keep paying Apple the premium it charges?

throwaway5959 4y ago
We shouldn’t, and I won’t. I’ll sell all my Apple hardware and convert to Linux on the laptop, Windows for the gaming rig (already there) and Pixel for phone. I’ve kept all my stuff on non-Apple/Google platforms like 1Password and Dropbox so switching will be trivial.
- nullfield 4y ago
  Ditching 1Password for bitwarden and self-hosting it with vaultwarden might also be an option depending on your needs and experience.
  - throwaway5959 4y ago
    I’m happy to pay $60 or whatever it is a year to let them manage it for me.
    - commoner 4y ago
      Bitwarden's managed service is just $10/year (or free if you don't need TOTP), and it's FOSS.
woojoo666 4y ago
I doubt Apple will go down that path, the past few years have shown how badly advertising can hurt the reputation of a company (see Facebook, Google)
- wobbly_bush 4y ago
  Does reputation matter if there are no alternatives? For those who are looking at good quality hardware and a software ecosystem that works for basic use cases, they might have to continue to tolerate Apple products even if they introduce ads.
Mikeb85 4y ago
> road of Google, putting ads in everything At least when I open the Play Store the only ads are for apps, and none are gambling apps...
newaccount2021 4y ago
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lern_too_spel 4y ago
Even worse. Since there are people at Google who care about people being able to control their devices, you don't have to run any apps that have Google ads on devices that Google sells. There is no such escape hatch on iOS.

throwaway5959 4y ago

We shouldn’t, and I won’t. I’ll sell all my Apple hardware and convert to Linux on the laptop, Windows for the gaming rig (already there) and Pixel for phone. I’ve kept all my stuff on non-Apple/Google platforms like 1Password and Dropbox so switching will be trivial.

nullfield 4y ago
Ditching 1Password for bitwarden and self-hosting it with vaultwarden might also be an option depending on your needs and experience.
- throwaway5959 4y ago
  I’m happy to pay $60 or whatever it is a year to let them manage it for me.
  - commoner 4y ago
    Bitwarden's managed service is just $10/year (or free if you don't need TOTP), and it's FOSS.

woojoo666 4y ago

I doubt Apple will go down that path, the past few years have shown how badly advertising can hurt the reputation of a company (see Facebook, Google)

wobbly_bush 4y ago
Does reputation matter if there are no alternatives? For those who are looking at good quality hardware and a software ecosystem that works for basic use cases, they might have to continue to tolerate Apple products even if they introduce ads.

Mikeb85 4y ago

> road of Google, putting ads in everything At least when I open the Play Store the only ads are for apps, and none are gambling apps...

newaccount2021 4y ago

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lern_too_spel 4y ago

Even worse. Since there are people at Google who care about people being able to control their devices, you don't have to run any apps that have Google ads on devices that Google sells. There is no such escape hatch on iOS.