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It’s a backdoor for sure. I think the extensive online campaign which desperately tries to prove its not, proves it is. Who can afford to police EVERY forum, so

It’s a backdoor for sure. I think the extensive online campaign which desperately tries to prove its not, proves it is. Who can afford to police EVERY forum, social media platform, and web site only to call people mentally ill for suspecting it is? It’s a pattern which only fits certain players.

CyberDildonics 4y ago
> the extensive online campaign which desperately tries to prove its not, proves it is That's like saying the extensive campaign to prove the earth is a sphere proves it's flat. That isn't how logic works.
- Spooky23 4y ago
  That’s what they want you to think. First they make you drink fluoridated dihydrogen monoxide, then when you get a job in enterprise IT, the extra ions in your teeth make you pay extra for vPro.
- anonym29 4y ago
  Nobody has any real material gain from tricking people into believing the earth is a sphere. Conversely, if ME/PSP actually is a hardware backdoor: 1. The proprietor of the backdoor would've expended considerable resources designing, implementing, testing, and distributing it, and thus would have an economic incentive not to see it exposed and discarded so as not to incur development expenses on a successor. 2. The proprietor of the backdoor would have an operational incentive to not have collection disrupted by the backdoor being detected, exposed, and discarded. Your comparison of what looks like a real conspiracy to a known character-assasination conspiracy (flat earth) is consistent with COINTELPRO techniques. I'm not accusing you of being a bad-faith actor, but you're arguing against someone who is opposed to an alleged US intelligence agency backdoor, using rhetoric consistent with known techniques used by US intelligence agencies to disrupt conversations (and discredit participants) who are exposing US secrets.
  - CyberDildonics 4y ago
    you're arguing against someone who is opposed to an alleged US intelligence agency backdoor, using rhetoric consistent with known techniques used by US intelligence agencies to disrupt conversations Then they should use better arguments and not "everyone saying one thing somehow proves the opposite".

CyberDildonics 4y ago

> the extensive online campaign which desperately tries to prove its not, proves it is That's like saying the extensive campaign to prove the earth is a sphere proves it's flat. That isn't how logic works.

Spooky23 4y ago
That’s what they want you to think. First they make you drink fluoridated dihydrogen monoxide, then when you get a job in enterprise IT, the extra ions in your teeth make you pay extra for vPro.
anonym29 4y ago
Nobody has any real material gain from tricking people into believing the earth is a sphere. Conversely, if ME/PSP actually is a hardware backdoor: 1. The proprietor of the backdoor would've expended considerable resources designing, implementing, testing, and distributing it, and thus would have an economic incentive not to see it exposed and discarded so as not to incur development expenses on a successor. 2. The proprietor of the backdoor would have an operational incentive to not have collection disrupted by the backdoor being detected, exposed, and discarded. Your comparison of what looks like a real conspiracy to a known character-assasination conspiracy (flat earth) is consistent with COINTELPRO techniques. I'm not accusing you of being a bad-faith actor, but you're arguing against someone who is opposed to an alleged US intelligence agency backdoor, using rhetoric consistent with known techniques used by US intelligence agencies to disrupt conversations (and discredit participants) who are exposing US secrets.
- CyberDildonics 4y ago
  you're arguing against someone who is opposed to an alleged US intelligence agency backdoor, using rhetoric consistent with known techniques used by US intelligence agencies to disrupt conversations Then they should use better arguments and not "everyone saying one thing somehow proves the opposite".