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Even nuns watch porn, Pope says, warning of risks
- ilrwbwrkhv 4y ago
- shishy 4y agoI don't think you realize how many innovations we have today came from the porn industry
- _aavaa_ 4y agoLots of innovations came out of finding more effective to kill people on mass. But that does not redeem it.
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- KingJulian 4y agoTrue. But often times, war is a necessary evil.
- _aavaa_ 4y agoIrrelevant. Even you discuss it as a necessary evil
- KingJulian 4y agoI mentioned war in response to your comment relating to mass killing. Again, it's not ideal. But it is necessary, evil as it may be. Like capital punishment.
- _aavaa_ 4y agoI will set aside the discussion of whether or not it is necessary. My point is that even if it were sometimes necessary, any incidental benefits derived from it do not suddenly make it desirable or good.
- KingJulian 4y ago> My point is that even if it were sometimes necessary, any incidental benefits derived from it do not suddenly make it desirable or good. I agree.
- the_only_law 4y agoAgreed we should ban people from war.
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- zoklet-enjoyer 4y agoNothing wrong with porn or gambling. Makes me want to make bets involving porn
- KingJulian 4y agoA part of me agrees with the statement. But how do you gauge what kind of an effect (negative, specifically) porn consumption has? Excessive usage does affect an individuals life negatively. What about minimal to moderate usage? I suppose in many ways it's similar to alcohol. The ones who can handle their booze and drink responsibly have no issues. I know that you haven't made any explicit statement about whether pornography should be banned. According to you, what would an ideal solution to this problem look like?
- dqpb 4y agoSex is the "meaning of life".
- otabdeveloper4 4y agoExcept porn isn't sex. (Porn is what people resort to when they can't get sex.)
- Buttons840 4y agoI was recently looking into the science of porn and its effects. I think there is much to be desired. It is so tangled with religious morals, and what few studies exist beg the cliche "correlation does not prove causation". Pornography also has many definitions and covers a wide range of media. It's awkward to talk about and people avoid being specific which furthers confusion. I imagine at least some disagreements arise because one party is thinking of ASMR when they hear the word "porn", and another is thinking of violent rape videos (acted out by consenting adults, hopefully!), two very different things. The only thing I'm personally certain about is partners should be honest about their values and behaviors, preferably early in the relationship.
- atoav 4y agoWhat you say is right, but one thing to consider is the images porn might create of how a sucessful sex life and the persons having it (have to) look like. While I have no data here I know of cases where especially people whose sexuality is not developed, or people who never had sex can land in a sexually and personally very frustrating place because they don't read the overexaggerated, sometimes comical and distorted acts for what they are. Having good sex with someone in the real world is all about being able to express one's desire and form a connection. Having very fixed images of how the whole thing must look can and will get in the way of that. For young people the backdrop of porn can really fuck things up. Where two people where meant to discover their sexuality together, they might now wrongly feel like experts already, unable to connect at all.
- FrontierPsych 4y agoI hear this a lot, but this has to only affect the most dense of people. I saw the stuff and never once did I think porn was "real." It's ridiculous. I don't think that Wiley C Coyote falls 2000 feet off a cliff, you see a hole in the ground with his profile, and he climbs out and dusts himself off and walks away. This may seem REALLY bizarre to some people, but I don't think that is real either. No, I think the whole "You watch porn and people think it is real and that is the way it is" has to be some kind of weird scare tactic.
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- hulitu 4y agoDo what the priest says not what he does. /s
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- xyzzy4747 4y agoSince priests aren’t allowed to get married and have children (which is ridiculous in the first place), they should at least be able to watch porn, which doesn’t hurt anyone. Just my 2 cents. I understand how it goes against Christian tenets though.
- MuffinFlavored 4y ago> which doesn’t hurt anyone a lot of people think it hurts you/yourself, as if it is a drug/addiction/harmful stimulant
- rnk 4y agoWhat does a lot of people even mean? It's meaningless. Is that you and your friend? Results of a study? Random thoughts of sex fearing folks?
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- olliej 4y agoThat is church specific - there are plenty of christian churches that don't put chastity constraints on priests. Obviously others have pointed out that various churches, including the catholic, have spent decades allowing and protecting priests and nuns who rape and abuse children, which kind of undermines this kind of "porn is dangerous" message.
- josemanuel 4y agoBut how does he know?! Do they log the dns requests in the monastery’s network?
- teh_klev 4y agoAnonymised reports from the confessional?
- pyuser583 4y agoThere is/was a very popular “source texts from the Middle Ages” used for undergraduate Medieval Literature. It included a translation of medieval pornography written by German nuns in the 12 century. It was … interesting. “The Martrydom of Saints Faith, Hope, and Charity.” Basically a group of nuns in Ancient Rome forced to commit blasphemy or be tortured to death in the sexiest way possible. 50 Shades of Grey meets Martyrdom of St SomethingOrOther. The Middle Ages has a well-studied tradition of high erotica, but the low level pornography popular in convents is less interesting. My point is just that pornography isn’t new. But that doesn’t mean it’s great literature either.
- yieldcrv 4y agoI think demand can shift towards filmed sex in a better run industry and sites that arent aiming to pull attention in a million ways at once I don't think any curb on the supply and how it is produced is worthwhile or practical, just circuiting consumer behavior with other options
- joemazerino 4y agoPorn is bad for your brain. Watch less or none of it and focus on your own sexuality as an outlet. yourbrainonporn.com