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I remember learning that when Pixar did a pan-and-scan version of one of their movies, they wouldn't just use a floating 4:3 frame over the 16:9 original -- the

by jfb 4y ago

I remember learning that when Pixar did a pan-and-scan version of one of their movies, they wouldn't just use a floating 4:3 frame over the 16:9 original -- they'd re-render the movie, moving items around as necessary, to get a better framing. The perfectionism was palpable when we'd meet with them.

bee_rider 4y ago
This seems like a huge advantage with mostly-digital movies. I wonder how easily a Marvel or Starwars movie could be re-rendered like this. Technically there are actors of course, but they are usually the main focus of the scene anyway...
- gabereiser 4y ago
  For green screen shots this would be fine. For VFX LED wall shots, this wouldn’t work. However, movies and shows today are shot in a high resolution that you can crop/edit into most formats. Green screen shots lend itself to resizing better due to the ability to fill in more of the scene while pulling the subject matter away a bit to fit the format.
  - jasonjamerson 4y ago
    Many LED wall shots are completely rotoscoped anyway just to dial it in that much further. But you still get the advantages of environmental lighting and the efficiency of real time decision making.
- jonny_eh 4y ago
  VFX shots are not pure CGI, it's a whole lot of layers composited on top of each other, think Photoshop but video. So making tweaks to any given shot would not be as easy.
- hondo77 4y ago
  > I wonder how easily a Marvel or Starwars movie could be re-rendered like this. Fortunately we don't have to worry about 4:3 anymore.
  - Keyframe 4y ago
    There's wider adopted 16:9 aka 1.78 aspect target and then there's everything from 1.85 to 2.39 and ridiculousness like 2.44. Most common three today being 1.78 (aka 16:9), 1.85 and 2.39 (2.35 instead sometimes). 1.85 to 1.78 is usually a fit frame type of crop and call it a day, but 2.39 to 1.78 for home/TV release is same story all over again - do you do the letterbox or are we gonna play re-frame this shot game?
- pj_mukh 4y ago
  This is a huge selling point for rendering software in almost all media. Working on something for ecommerce here: https://www.dabble.so/ https://www.dabble.so/
acuozzo 4y ago
Disney did this with "Lady and the Tramp". Cinemascope and an academy ratio versions were animated individually in order to make the best use of the frame shape.
- jfb 4y ago
  I didn't know this. The level of effort involved there is just staggering.

by jfb 4y ago

bee_rider 4y ago

This seems like a huge advantage with mostly-digital movies. I wonder how easily a Marvel or Starwars movie could be re-rendered like this. Technically there are actors of course, but they are usually the main focus of the scene anyway...

gabereiser 4y ago
For green screen shots this would be fine. For VFX LED wall shots, this wouldn’t work. However, movies and shows today are shot in a high resolution that you can crop/edit into most formats. Green screen shots lend itself to resizing better due to the ability to fill in more of the scene while pulling the subject matter away a bit to fit the format.
- jasonjamerson 4y ago
  Many LED wall shots are completely rotoscoped anyway just to dial it in that much further. But you still get the advantages of environmental lighting and the efficiency of real time decision making.
jonny_eh 4y ago
VFX shots are not pure CGI, it's a whole lot of layers composited on top of each other, think Photoshop but video. So making tweaks to any given shot would not be as easy.
hondo77 4y ago
> I wonder how easily a Marvel or Starwars movie could be re-rendered like this. Fortunately we don't have to worry about 4:3 anymore.
- Keyframe 4y ago
  There's wider adopted 16:9 aka 1.78 aspect target and then there's everything from 1.85 to 2.39 and ridiculousness like 2.44. Most common three today being 1.78 (aka 16:9), 1.85 and 2.39 (2.35 instead sometimes). 1.85 to 1.78 is usually a fit frame type of crop and call it a day, but 2.39 to 1.78 for home/TV release is same story all over again - do you do the letterbox or are we gonna play re-frame this shot game?
pj_mukh 4y ago
This is a huge selling point for rendering software in almost all media. Working on something for ecommerce here: https://www.dabble.so/ https://www.dabble.so/

acuozzo 4y ago

Disney did this with "Lady and the Tramp". Cinemascope and an academy ratio versions were animated individually in order to make the best use of the frame shape.

jfb 4y ago
I didn't know this. The level of effort involved there is just staggering.