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> Why is it suddenly unethical the moment it turns into an office job? It's only unethical if you're not in the ruling class. If you're an executive, it's perf

> Why is it suddenly unethical the moment it turns into an office job? It's only unethical if you're not in the ruling class. If you're an executive, it's perfectly fine to sit on the board of multiple companies simultaneously (each one paying you $50,000+ per year).

tomtheelder 4y ago
No, it's unethical to do it without disclosure. You can have as many jobs as you want as long as they are aware of one another.
- sahila 4y ago
  Why though? What business does one employer have knowing what else you do in your life? Do you tell them what hobbies you’re into or what tv show you watched last?
  - tomtheelder 4y ago
    Legally speaking because it's in your contract. Ethically it's because when you agree to a full time position you are agreeing to make your time available, with reasonable allowances. Again, it's completely fine to make a different arrangement if that's clear up front. Unless you are somehow working them in totally offset hours, or you have _literally_ zero meetings and work in a completely asynchronous environment, then you need to disclose. But that's not true for an overwhelmingly large number of people. You aren't just being paid for output, you are also being paid for time.
    - sahila 4y ago
      Legally I have had one employer contract call out that they expect you to work for certain hours, but that was a Canadian startup; none of the American companies have had that I remember. Ethically though, I don't feel this way at all. They're paying for my output not my time. I don't get paid overtime when I work extra nor do I get credit for working on the weekend. I don't think I'll convince you but I guess I would say you don't owe your employer your life. They'll cut you off when it's to their benefit and it's best you do what's best for you.

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> Why is it suddenly unethical the moment it turns into an office job? It's only unethical if you're not in the ruling class. If you're an executive, it's perf

by LambdaComplex 4y ago

tomtheelder 4y ago
No, it's unethical to do it without disclosure. You can have as many jobs as you want as long as they are aware of one another.
- sahila 4y ago
  Why though? What business does one employer have knowing what else you do in your life? Do you tell them what hobbies you’re into or what tv show you watched last?
  - tomtheelder 4y ago
    Legally speaking because it's in your contract. Ethically it's because when you agree to a full time position you are agreeing to make your time available, with reasonable allowances. Again, it's completely fine to make a different arrangement if that's clear up front. Unless you are somehow working them in totally offset hours, or you have _literally_ zero meetings and work in a completely asynchronous environment, then you need to disclose. But that's not true for an overwhelmingly large number of people. You aren't just being paid for output, you are also being paid for time.
    - sahila 4y ago
      Legally I have had one employer contract call out that they expect you to work for certain hours, but that was a Canadian startup; none of the American companies have had that I remember. Ethically though, I don't feel this way at all. They're paying for my output not my time. I don't get paid overtime when I work extra nor do I get credit for working on the weekend. I don't think I'll convince you but I guess I would say you don't owe your employer your life. They'll cut you off when it's to their benefit and it's best you do what's best for you.