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Trusting Apple...doesn't make a lot of sense. They're almost entirely security-by-obscurity. You have nothing to go on but their promises.
by NoImmatureAdHom 4y ago
Trusting Apple...doesn't make a lot of sense. They're almost entirely security-by-obscurity. You have nothing to go on but their promises.
- fragmede 4y agoApple doesn't tell us everything, but they do say a lot so I don't think I'd call it security by obscurity. https://support.apple.com/guide/security/secure-enclave-sec59b0b31ff/web https://support.apple.com/guide/security/secure-enclave-sec5... https://help.apple.com/pdf/security/en_US/apple-platform-security-guide.pdf https://help.apple.com/pdf/security/en_US/apple-platform-sec... They give us the architecture diagrams and tell us how the locks on their doors work, but they don't gives us the keys for it. Remember: You don't actually own any iOS device because you can't run unsigned code that you wrote on it.
- NoImmatureAdHom 4y agoIf the builds aren't verifiable and you can't put what you want on there then it's just promises, which are worth nothing. > Remember: You don't actually own any iOS device because you can't run unsigned code that you wrote on it. We agree about that!
- stalfosknight 4y agoI'm with you on the general idea that we shouldn't blindly believe everything a for-profit corporation says but at the same time we shouldn't allow fact-free speculation, rumor, or just plain cynicism to masquerade as facts either.
- NoImmatureAdHom 4y agoI don't think it's controversial that trust in Apple's extremely locked-down ecosystem basically comes down to "we promise". If it's closed source you can't verify. Even if it's open, if it's not a reproducible build (or your own build) that you install yourself then who knows what's on there and what it does?