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> public since quite a while... I think this is an interesting point. If you were to suddenly flip a switch and have all US data exposed the same way, I think

> public since quite a while... I think this is an interesting point. If you were to suddenly flip a switch and have all US data exposed the same way, I think there would be chaos and maybe even violence. But I think that speaks more negatively to the current state of America than it does the idea of having information be public.

YetAnotherNick 4y ago
Can you describe why it will create violence? I could maybe understand that it could makes employment harder for some group or something, but how does it lead to violence.
- rixthefox 4y ago
  Violence because some Americans just cannot be trusted with public data. My biggest complaint about living in the US, being a natural born citizen, is that most people seem to make everything about themselves and this is partially the problem. All of this information being publicly available isn't the problem, it's that most people don't know how to leave well enough alone and think that just because they have this information that they need to act on it and use it to their advantage. Likewise, you have the people who simply have no self-control and will fly off the handle and do something without knowing all the pieces and just assume they have heard enough to make up their mind. They would use that information to hurt their perceived enemies because in their messed up echo chamber if you're not Male, White, Christian, and Heterosexual then you're the wrong kind of American. The current issues surrounding abortion and women's rights only reinforce that mindset. These people label those differences as an "illness" and all that virtue signalling to make you feel like you're wrong if you believe otherwise.
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- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  Response to a deleted comment: > Extralegal punishments like "cancelling", doxxing, and indirectly inciting violence on your political adversaries is becoming more common. > And when that happens, it's understandable why the target above would want to get the person back with their own (possibly kinetic) extralegal punishment, if they can't take it through the court system, which is what already happens for people like drug dealers (they can't go through court system to fix bad deals). > You also just have crazy people. "Talk shit, get hit" etc. You're absolutely right. Vigilantism is a serious problem, and dressing it up as political activism is becoming increasingly common. You can't even avoid this by simply believing and saying the "correct" things because half the country is going to disagree with you regardless. In such an environment, anonymity is the best defense. Either you blend in with the crowd and never say anything interesting, hope that nobody ever singles you out for retaliation, or you cloak yourself in anonymity and speak your mind. The latter is something of an American tradition, born in a time of revolutionary strife when being on the wrong side could get you dead, imprisoned, or chased out of the country. Aside: don't take downvotes so seriously. Sometimes good comments get hit with a lot of downvotes at first but get upvoted again later. Also they don't matter, the 'karma' is imaginary internet points and you can't buy anything with them. Ignore downvotes and speak your mind.

YetAnotherNick 4y ago

Can you describe why it will create violence? I could maybe understand that it could makes employment harder for some group or something, but how does it lead to violence.

rixthefox 4y ago
Violence because some Americans just cannot be trusted with public data. My biggest complaint about living in the US, being a natural born citizen, is that most people seem to make everything about themselves and this is partially the problem. All of this information being publicly available isn't the problem, it's that most people don't know how to leave well enough alone and think that just because they have this information that they need to act on it and use it to their advantage. Likewise, you have the people who simply have no self-control and will fly off the handle and do something without knowing all the pieces and just assume they have heard enough to make up their mind. They would use that information to hurt their perceived enemies because in their messed up echo chamber if you're not Male, White, Christian, and Heterosexual then you're the wrong kind of American. The current issues surrounding abortion and women's rights only reinforce that mindset. These people label those differences as an "illness" and all that virtue signalling to make you feel like you're wrong if you believe otherwise.
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MichaelCollins 4y ago
Response to a deleted comment: > Extralegal punishments like "cancelling", doxxing, and indirectly inciting violence on your political adversaries is becoming more common. > And when that happens, it's understandable why the target above would want to get the person back with their own (possibly kinetic) extralegal punishment, if they can't take it through the court system, which is what already happens for people like drug dealers (they can't go through court system to fix bad deals). > You also just have crazy people. "Talk shit, get hit" etc. You're absolutely right. Vigilantism is a serious problem, and dressing it up as political activism is becoming increasingly common. You can't even avoid this by simply believing and saying the "correct" things because half the country is going to disagree with you regardless. In such an environment, anonymity is the best defense. Either you blend in with the crowd and never say anything interesting, hope that nobody ever singles you out for retaliation, or you cloak yourself in anonymity and speak your mind. The latter is something of an American tradition, born in a time of revolutionary strife when being on the wrong side could get you dead, imprisoned, or chased out of the country. Aside: don't take downvotes so seriously. Sometimes good comments get hit with a lot of downvotes at first but get upvoted again later. Also they don't matter, the 'karma' is imaginary internet points and you can't buy anything with them. Ignore downvotes and speak your mind.