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I'm not OP. But asking the government to give you back privacy seems the worst of all possible worlds. The people who need it the most are usually the people th

I'm not OP. But asking the government to give you back privacy seems the worst of all possible worlds. The people who need it the most are usually the people the Swedish government wants dead, e.g. Assange.

JoachimS 4y ago
"The people who need it the most are usually the people the Swedish government wants dead," Citation very much needed. Both on the claims that the Swedish government actually want people dead. And that this would need this protection _usually_ are in this category. There are literally thousands of people that has this protection. 14000 women has this, commonly to protect them against an abusive partner (not the government). This page in Swedish provides more info: https://jamstalldhetsmyndigheten.se/mans-vald-mot-kvinnor/skyddade-personuppgifter/ https://jamstalldhetsmyndigheten.se/mans-vald-mot-kvinnor/sk...
- muaytimbo 4y ago
  If thousands of people need this every year (and the bar to getting it is low as you say) why is privacy not the default? Wouldn't that be easier?
  - tokai 4y ago
    Thousands of people get cavities fixed each year, but we don't drill out everyone's teeth.
    - thrown_22 4y ago
      You don't have the police decide if you get your teeth fixed.
  - JoachimS 4y ago
    (Note that it is not thousands of new people each year. It is the number of people that has this protection. Out of 10+ million people,) Good question. From a technical, byrocratic point of view it breaks a lot of systems, which makes practical aspects in normal daily life hard. But that could be fixed, right? Efficiency over privacy is a political question. But, as someone mentioned earlier the constitution and the general culture, society formed from has (probably - I'm guessing) fostered an openness that not only applies to public services and organizations too. For many people and generations, the government has been seen (and still is) perceived as something good. Something Swedish citizens are part of. But of course there are also people and political parties that think private privacy is more important, and should be increased.

JoachimS 4y ago

"The people who need it the most are usually the people the Swedish government wants dead," Citation very much needed. Both on the claims that the Swedish government actually want people dead. And that this would need this protection _usually_ are in this category. There are literally thousands of people that has this protection. 14000 women has this, commonly to protect them against an abusive partner (not the government). This page in Swedish provides more info: https://jamstalldhetsmyndigheten.se/mans-vald-mot-kvinnor/skyddade-personuppgifter/ https://jamstalldhetsmyndigheten.se/mans-vald-mot-kvinnor/sk...

muaytimbo 4y ago
If thousands of people need this every year (and the bar to getting it is low as you say) why is privacy not the default? Wouldn't that be easier?
- tokai 4y ago
  Thousands of people get cavities fixed each year, but we don't drill out everyone's teeth.
  - thrown_22 4y ago
    You don't have the police decide if you get your teeth fixed.
- JoachimS 4y ago
  (Note that it is not thousands of new people each year. It is the number of people that has this protection. Out of 10+ million people,) Good question. From a technical, byrocratic point of view it breaks a lot of systems, which makes practical aspects in normal daily life hard. But that could be fixed, right? Efficiency over privacy is a political question. But, as someone mentioned earlier the constitution and the general culture, society formed from has (probably - I'm guessing) fostered an openness that not only applies to public services and organizations too. For many people and generations, the government has been seen (and still is) perceived as something good. Something Swedish citizens are part of. But of course there are also people and political parties that think private privacy is more important, and should be increased.