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IMHO it comes down to push notifications. If you install the app then they can proactively annoy ... sorry ... engage you.

• stevewatson301 4y ago
  Web browsers can do push notifications too, albeit they have to ask for consent first.
  • Shish2k 4y ago
    Not on iOS they can’t - iOS _requires_ developers to go through all the hassle, fees, and taxes of creating an App-Store App if they want to use what every other platform considers a “standard web browser feature"
    • tessela 4y ago
      This 'hassle' will change in 2023 - https://webkit.org/blog/13152/webkit-features-in-safari-16-0/ https://webkit.org/blog/13152/webkit-features-in-safari-16-0... https://webkit.org/blog/12945/meet-web-push/ https://webkit.org/blog/12945/meet-web-push/
    • AlexandrB 4y ago
      Meanwhile, in a previous thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33315308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33315308 I think website notifications in Safari will be fine for techies and others who use HN. But it will make many "normal" people's phones look like notification hell.
• luuuzeta 4y ago
  >If you install the app then they can proactively annoy ... sorry ... engage you. I remember how I had all notifications and jingle bells on when I got my first smartphone back in 2015/2016. Nowadays turning off notifications is the first thing I do, and then turning them on for selected apps (e.g., phone, Telegram, etc). It helps I don't have social media apps in my phone, and whatever I use I access it in the browser (e.g., Twitter and Reddit).