3 ms·

The iPad is just a larger IPhone. The real innovation in design here was the iPhone which release pre-dates even the first announcement of the JooJoo. I think i

The iPad is just a larger IPhone. The real innovation in design here was the iPhone which release pre-dates even the first announcement of the JooJoo. I think it is naive to think the sleek iPhone design didn't significantly influence all current tablet designs. To illustrate how not-obvious the design is, compare the original kindle (released prior to the iphone) to the iPad. And now compare the Kindle Fire (released after the iPhone/iPad) to the iPad.

b0k 15y ago
Apparently that doesn't matter, though. The court case is now about the two witnesses arguing about if the iPad is a unique design separate from all other web tablets, or if it is just a natural progression which anybody would have come up with. I think what this post is arguing is that it was a natural progression, since others were on the same path at the same time. I tend to side with Apple, but reading that testimony their witness/expert seems to be grasping at straws in some parts.
dazbradbury 15y ago
Two of my previous phones, the Sony Ericsson p800 and p900 both pre-date the iPhone. The former was launched in 2002. They were truly innovative imo (although probably something similar pre-dates them that I just don't know about), but as a smartphone with a single front screen, and nothing else (the keypad was detachable), they were a first for me. The evolution from a p800/p900 form factor, to the iphone, is a natural progression as engineering techniques improve. Couple that progression, with Apple's iOS, and you have the iPhone. My point is, where has it been shown that the iPhone design was the first in any case? Personally, I think Apple's argument is weak. Either way, Apple will continue to dominate the market regardless of competitors - I just hope they fail so we can see some fair competition.
- wmf 15y ago
  I had a P800 and I think the difference between the P800 and iPhone is much greater than the difference between the iPhone and the Galaxy. Replacing a raised plastic bezel with a single flat piece of glass is innovative IMO. The feel of using a modern phone is also completely different from the P800.
akmiller 15y ago
To illustrate how not-obvious the design is, compare the original kindle (released prior to the iphone) to the iPad. And now compare the Kindle Fire (released after the iPhone/iPad) to the iPad. First of all, that's simply not true. iPhone first revealed in January of 2007 and Kindle in November. Those are very different devices with very different intentions. Apple building a high end phone; Amazon building a very affordable reading device. Sure, the Fire will now compete with the iPad but it's a more general use tablet, not just a Kindle e-reader.
deleted 15y ago
[deleted]

b0k 15y ago

Apparently that doesn't matter, though. The court case is now about the two witnesses arguing about if the iPad is a unique design separate from all other web tablets, or if it is just a natural progression which anybody would have come up with. I think what this post is arguing is that it was a natural progression, since others were on the same path at the same time. I tend to side with Apple, but reading that testimony their witness/expert seems to be grasping at straws in some parts.

dazbradbury 15y ago

Two of my previous phones, the Sony Ericsson p800 and p900 both pre-date the iPhone. The former was launched in 2002. They were truly innovative imo (although probably something similar pre-dates them that I just don't know about), but as a smartphone with a single front screen, and nothing else (the keypad was detachable), they were a first for me. The evolution from a p800/p900 form factor, to the iphone, is a natural progression as engineering techniques improve. Couple that progression, with Apple's iOS, and you have the iPhone. My point is, where has it been shown that the iPhone design was the first in any case? Personally, I think Apple's argument is weak. Either way, Apple will continue to dominate the market regardless of competitors - I just hope they fail so we can see some fair competition.

wmf 15y ago
I had a P800 and I think the difference between the P800 and iPhone is much greater than the difference between the iPhone and the Galaxy. Replacing a raised plastic bezel with a single flat piece of glass is innovative IMO. The feel of using a modern phone is also completely different from the P800.

akmiller 15y ago

To illustrate how not-obvious the design is, compare the original kindle (released prior to the iphone) to the iPad. And now compare the Kindle Fire (released after the iPhone/iPad) to the iPad. First of all, that's simply not true. iPhone first revealed in January of 2007 and Kindle in November. Those are very different devices with very different intentions. Apple building a high end phone; Amazon building a very affordable reading device. Sure, the Fire will now compete with the iPad but it's a more general use tablet, not just a Kindle e-reader.

deleted 15y ago

[deleted]