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Everyone in this thread getting grouchy and accusing Apple of hypocrisy already has a full-time job working on climate change, right? Right? https://climateba

Everyone in this thread getting grouchy and accusing Apple of hypocrisy already has a full-time job working on climate change, right? Right? https://climatebase.org https://climatebase.org

ok_dad 4y ago
I don’t think people need to be shamed here. We all do what we can, when we can. There aren’t enough jobs and but enough social support for most of us to work in climate tech or drop jobs out of principle.
- roflyear 4y ago
  I can shame who I want. Until you go vegan or part time vegan and adjust your lifestyle you're not serious about climate change.
  - klipklop 4y ago
    Until you stop all activity and immediately compost your body, you are not serious about climate change. Increasingly escalating 'No true Scotsman'/appeal to purity arguments are sure fun! I say let's just assume people are not by default acting like a villain in an episode of Captain Planet. Partner and I have dabbled in Veganism, it was detrimental to our health. One diet can't fit all and we should not apply morality to one or the other, within reasonable limits of course.
    - roflyear 4y ago
      Lol. You definitely do not care about climate change if you're not willing to take SOME personal sacrifice. Blowing it up to hyperbole is stupid. I don't think people are villains. I just think they are misguided. Well, you don't have to go full vegan. Doubtful you need to eat meat every day to stay healthy.
carrotcarrot 4y ago
It's a buzzword to "disrupt" the energy market. This green energy is all arbitrary, like how nuclear is not considered green in Europe but deforestation is. You don't need to work in the scam industry to be able to recognize it for what it is. The only solution is decreasing consumption, but that doesn't make good marketing material or fund political campaigns.
- carstenhag 4y ago
  But we want Macs. We want iPhones. We have the tech which is a large part of the solution, then invest in it. (yes, the European taxonomy is not great. Different countries, different opinions, better some conclusion than none I guess...)
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klipklop 4y ago
I was curious, but this website asks for your email to even look at the job listings.
heavyset_go 4y ago
This is a good example of the tu quoque fallacy[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Everyone in this thread getting grouchy and accusing Apple of hypocrisy already has a full-time job working on climate change, right? Right? https://climatebase.org https://climatebase.org

ok_dad 4y ago

I don’t think people need to be shamed here. We all do what we can, when we can. There aren’t enough jobs and but enough social support for most of us to work in climate tech or drop jobs out of principle.

roflyear 4y ago
I can shame who I want. Until you go vegan or part time vegan and adjust your lifestyle you're not serious about climate change.
- klipklop 4y ago
  Until you stop all activity and immediately compost your body, you are not serious about climate change. Increasingly escalating 'No true Scotsman'/appeal to purity arguments are sure fun! I say let's just assume people are not by default acting like a villain in an episode of Captain Planet. Partner and I have dabbled in Veganism, it was detrimental to our health. One diet can't fit all and we should not apply morality to one or the other, within reasonable limits of course.
  - roflyear 4y ago
    Lol. You definitely do not care about climate change if you're not willing to take SOME personal sacrifice. Blowing it up to hyperbole is stupid. I don't think people are villains. I just think they are misguided. Well, you don't have to go full vegan. Doubtful you need to eat meat every day to stay healthy.

carrotcarrot 4y ago

It's a buzzword to "disrupt" the energy market. This green energy is all arbitrary, like how nuclear is not considered green in Europe but deforestation is. You don't need to work in the scam industry to be able to recognize it for what it is. The only solution is decreasing consumption, but that doesn't make good marketing material or fund political campaigns.

carstenhag 4y ago
But we want Macs. We want iPhones. We have the tech which is a large part of the solution, then invest in it. (yes, the European taxonomy is not great. Different countries, different opinions, better some conclusion than none I guess...)

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klipklop 4y ago

I was curious, but this website asks for your email to even look at the job listings.

heavyset_go 4y ago

This is a good example of the tu quoque fallacy[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque