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What Tools Developers Actually Use
- penwwolf 15y agoI don't think RoR is really a "tool"
- AndrewDucker 15y agoIt's a framework, which is what it's filed under.
- yummybear 15y agoAm I the only one who finds something odd about these numbers - 9% are using .NET yet less than 4% are using Visual Studio.NET? My personal observation is something close to 90-100% of .NET developers use VS.NET.
- BSousa 15y agoNot really. I also am baffled by django and rails being top, but then eclipse as ide? And Objective-C being below 5% but Xcode 10%. This just either smells like a load of crap of the survey was done in a very inconsistent manner. (Not giving an option for 'I don't use an IDE' or the likes.
- edge17 15y agoAssuming someone was told to do a survey, and didn't care to make sense of the results or doesn't have the background to interpret them... happens in school all the time...
- tomku 15y agoThat would be a bit concerning, given that (according to the story), the survey was run by a company whose business is recommending "work apps".
- edge17 15y agoNews is sort of a broken industry :) Big misalignment of incentives - everything is about readership and generating traffic. I know plenty of people that write, and very few of them are knowledgable on the subject matter they write about (and they know it). It's just an industry like any other, with a product and a customer. Besides, my business is 'whatever I want it to be.' The scary thing here is, now that it's been reported, it can now be cited as 'fact'
- scott_s 15y agoThey probably just asked their users, which is a huge selection bias.
- blhack 15y agoI kindof curious how many people use IDEs. I just write everything in VIM.
- rmc 15y agoIf I was answering a survey on IDEs, I'd say I use Vim. It's what I use to do something that people use an IDE for, ergo, it's my IDE.
- scott_s 15y agoIf someone asks me what I use as my IDE, I say none. IDE stands for integrated development environment. I don't have an integrated development environment. I have a modular development environment. It's called Unix.
- rmc 15y agoGood point. My IDE is bash. Through it I use components and plug ins ("programmes") to edit code, run tests, commit to svn, pull down changes, etc. Bash is my development environment.
- dextorious 15y agoI think most people use IDEs, just as more people (including programmers) use Windows.
- dextorious 15y agoThe survey says "the asked 500 leading software developers from around the world". So, this is more about rock-star programmers and such, not people using .NET/VS in the enterprise. Especially as it talks about companies with <= 100 employees. Probably people more like the Miguel De Icaza, Jeff Atwood etc types that probably use Vim/Emacs or such to work with .NET. Even so, so many people using Notepad++? WTF?
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- mbowcock 15y agoI'd be surprised to see a large number of 'rock star' devs using Eclipse.
- dextorious 15y agoWell, at least a large number of rock star devs created it, the OTI team was quite influential in its prime, Dave Thomas et al (not of Prag. Programmers fame).
- xer0 15y ago"Even so, so many people using Notepad++? WTF?" I've seen more than a handful of really smart developers use notepad, even without the ++. It's always surprising, but there's probably a lesson to learn.
- johnthedebs 15y agoI've seen...really smart developers use notepad...there's probably a lesson to learn. I find that really hard to believe, and I can't imagine what the lesson would be. It's akin to a NASCAR driver driving a Camry. It's true that the tools don't make the dev, but if what you say is true those devs are just hampering themselves.
- jc4p 15y agoWhat's wrong with Notepad++? Notepad++ is the Windows equivalent of Coda or TextMate, it's one of the first things I install every time I'm on a Windows machine. I can get my Notepad++ themes off my source-control and have the exact same look/feel on whatever machine I am, and it has FTP/SFTP, Subversion, and more recently, Git plugins available too. Oh I probably should say that I don't disagree that the survey is very biased (just look at the sample size), but Notepad++ is one of the only few things on that list I'm not shocked to see.
- tomku 15y agoThe whole thing is odd. For example, look at the IDE category as a whole. Aptana is a set of plugins for Eclipse, and Selenium IDE is an Firefox plugin "IDE" for a very specific tool/purpose (writing Selenium tests) rather than a generic coding IDE like the rest. Visual Studio should definitely be in there too, given the numbers for .NET and MSSQL. I'm also wondering why GitHub isn't somewhere on here. It seems like it'd fit in several categories ("project management" and "bug tracking" to start), and I have a hard time believing that a demographic composed of 53% Git users and 28% Rails devs would have less than 4% using GitHub for either of those purposes.
- tel 15y agoMy general observation is: if they presented the data as an infographic, the methods are broken.
- scott_s 15y agoI think there is some serious selection bias. In particular, I think they mostly talked to web developers. (Of course, it's also possible that web developers now make up the majority of developers, but I'd like to see a separate study on that.) They show the "industry" breakdown, but 83% are under "technology" which is too generic to tell me anything meaningful. Ah, they do say the people surveyed are at companies with less than 100 employees, so, yeah, there's some selection bias.
- edge17 15y agoCurious if git is commonly used in companies over 100 people.
- quanticle 15y agoNot just web developers. Web developers on Mac OSX. Textmate's massive lead over everything else is proof positive of that.
- TillE 15y agoNote also the total lack of Visual Studio. It's not even 5%? C'mon. Even just among web developers, ASP.NET is bigger than that.
- corry 15y agoLeaving aside questions about sample size / methodology / etc, here are the big surprises for me: FRAMEWORKS - CodeIgniter at 6%. I use it for some projects, but I'm surprised that 6% of 'top developers' are still using it too given that it's an older entry in the (very crowded) field of PHP frameworks, AND it's PHP (which everyone loves to hate). TEXT EDITORS - Nice to see Coda on the list. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised, but it's a great product with just the right mix of minimal features for me (syntax highlighting, simple FTP, sane keyboard shortcuts).
- 3pt14159 15y agoWhere is emacs? I'm not expecting it to get #1 or anything, but a very healthy number of devs use it.
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- CountHackulus 15y agoHow did they choose the "500 leading developers"? This seems to be heavily skewed towards web development.
- orenmazor 15y agoVersion Control: 53% use git, 31% svn, 3% beanstalk? which of these is not like the other.
- infocaptor 15y agoThis is not reliable at all. Look at the numbers for Oracle for database.
- msisk6 15y agoAll the companies they surveyed are less than 100 people. I'm actually surprised it's that high.
- wiradikusuma 15y agoI found this infographic worthless. Leading developers? How did they decide that? Minority Java and .NET? What kind of developers are they talking about?
- baby 15y agoNo dreamweaver for webdevelopping? Gosh I tried everything and I just can't find something better in my opinion.
- ruckusing 15y agoSurprising that SQL Server beats out Postgres, especially considering these are developers in companies <100 people.