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To all people complaining about bugs: 1. It's easy to find flaws in hard, ambitious projects. All ambitious projects start out as WIPs. 2. It is much harder to

by _7bxa 4y ago

To all people complaining about bugs: 1. It's easy to find flaws in hard, ambitious projects. All ambitious projects start out as WIPs. 2. It is much harder to do an ambitious project. Try to be in the 2nd group.

Tozen 4y ago
But here's the thing about that though, when it comes to other languages which are not 1.0, various people will bash and troll to no end about any flaw, bug, or mistake they can find. Hell, even smear the developers at will. How many times have we seen people dogging the hell out of Jai, Odin, Vlang, Carbon (that just started), and other newbies? People will dog other languages out and even compare them to 10 year old or older languages, without blinking.
the_mitsuhiko 4y ago
Zig is not the first new language I try. I was an excited early adopted of a lot of many languages including D, Go, Rust and TypeScript. At no point to I remember running into miscompilations on rather fundamental issues and so quickly. So I do think this is quite out of the ordinary.
- sullyj3 4y ago
  Consulting Wikipedia's "first appeared" field for each: D: 8 December 2001; 20 years ago Go: November 10, 2009; 12 years ago Rust: July 7, 2010; 12 years ago TypeScript: 1 October 2012; 10 years ago Zig: 8 February 2016; 6 years ago The only one of these which isn't at least twice as old as Zig is TypeScript, which has the might of Microsoft behind it, and is based on a well understood, pre-existing language. This is not a fair comparison.
  - Tozen 4y ago
    However, when it comes to comparing just as old or even newer languages than Zig, such as Odin, Jai, Vlang, Carbon, etc... Various people have no mercy whatsoever.
  - actuallyalys 4y ago
    The more reasonable interpretation (backed up by his other posts on this article and his use of "was") is that he is comparing Zig as it stands today to D, Go, Rust, and TypeScript when they were similarly new.
    - sullyj3 4y ago
      Fair point.

by _7bxa 4y ago

Tozen 4y ago

But here's the thing about that though, when it comes to other languages which are not 1.0, various people will bash and troll to no end about any flaw, bug, or mistake they can find. Hell, even smear the developers at will. How many times have we seen people dogging the hell out of Jai, Odin, Vlang, Carbon (that just started), and other newbies? People will dog other languages out and even compare them to 10 year old or older languages, without blinking.

the_mitsuhiko 4y ago

Zig is not the first new language I try. I was an excited early adopted of a lot of many languages including D, Go, Rust and TypeScript. At no point to I remember running into miscompilations on rather fundamental issues and so quickly. So I do think this is quite out of the ordinary.

sullyj3 4y ago
Consulting Wikipedia's "first appeared" field for each: D: 8 December 2001; 20 years ago Go: November 10, 2009; 12 years ago Rust: July 7, 2010; 12 years ago TypeScript: 1 October 2012; 10 years ago Zig: 8 February 2016; 6 years ago The only one of these which isn't at least twice as old as Zig is TypeScript, which has the might of Microsoft behind it, and is based on a well understood, pre-existing language. This is not a fair comparison.
- Tozen 4y ago
  However, when it comes to comparing just as old or even newer languages than Zig, such as Odin, Jai, Vlang, Carbon, etc... Various people have no mercy whatsoever.
- actuallyalys 4y ago
  The more reasonable interpretation (backed up by his other posts on this article and his use of "was") is that he is comparing Zig as it stands today to D, Go, Rust, and TypeScript when they were similarly new.
  - sullyj3 4y ago
    Fair point.