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There it is. This makes sense, I must have missed this. That is bonkers. So many engineers but still shut down products every few weeks. EDIT: Still FURIOUS t

There it is. This makes sense, I must have missed this. That is bonkers. So many engineers but still shut down products every few weeks. EDIT: Still FURIOUS they shut down Stadia. I hate you Google

bushbaba 4y ago
makes you wonder, what exactly the headcount is going to. Double the headcount, but sure doesn't feel like double the innovation/product-growth.
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  It's also wild internally. It feels like headcount is incredibly tight, and even tighter now. Like 20% of my time as a manager is spent being asked to propose large new projects only to be told "nope, no HC for that." But somehow the company is like 4x larger than it as when I joined.
  - mkmk3 4y ago
    Wow, really? So where is it all going?
    - UncleMeat 4y ago
      I suspect it is a property of subexponential growth. If every team gets new HC then the entire company grows at ridiculous pace. But it does feel disempowering to see the company grow like mad while we are told "not you."
- spaceman_2020 4y ago
  Honestly as an end user, the growth seems to be backwards. Search results are worse than ever, YouTube recommendations are broken, and for the first time in years, Google Maps is showing me weird as hell routes.
deegles 4y ago
Many are still furious about Google Reader.
TremendousJudge 4y ago
>Still FURIOUS they shut down Stadia You're the first person I have ever seen with this opinion. I want to know, back when this was released, what made you ignore all the people that said that the product would be a failure and that Google would shut it down quickly? I always saw that as the majority opinion.
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- arthurcolle 4y ago
  I thought that they would be serious about it given how much investment it took to get it off the ground and also how they were actively seeking relationships with indie devs to maintain vast amounts of quality titles. Obviously I was wrong and have been actively ending my own usage of Google products because I have been burned for the last time.
  - andsoitis 4y ago
    In what way were you burned with Stadia? I thought they reimbursed folks and you got some entertainment while you subscribed. Ultimately, they couldn't convince enough people to sign up, but that's a whole different story about product strategy.
    - arthurcolle 4y ago
      I'll never get to finish Cyberpunk lol I'm not playing that again. Sure, the refunds are nice.
      - gundmc 4y ago
        I'm pretty sure you can transfer your save game for Cyberpunk off of Stadia to PC or consoles. It's not true of every game, but I think it works for Cyberpunk if you plug it into your search engine of choice.
subsubzero 4y ago
regarding stadia, What did you think they would happen? They have a graveyard of great projects that should still be used by millions. The only things I see continuing are android, ads, search, I even feel with the severe losses their cloud unit is seeing even GCP could be shut down. Hell I could even see them abandoning Waymo, I mean this is google after all :)
- colinmhayes 4y ago
  They're not killing chrome. I doubt they kill their office suite either, it has really good numbers among young people, and microsoft's entire business is built on the back of its enterprise productivity software. It's a trillion dollar market cap business.
  - CydeWeys 4y ago
    The Office suite is used by every Googler every day (and that's every Googler, not just eng). It's what the company runs on. There's no way in hell it's getting shut down when it's that critical to business operations.
    - bushbaba 4y ago
      ...they killed some productivity apps. Don't say never. Hangouts, dead. Keep App, dead. Enterprise Search, dead. etc
      - chrisconroy 4y ago
        Keep isn't dead. I use it everyday on my personal and business account. I love keep. I will be sad when the inevitably kill it though.
      - hn_go_brrrrr 4y ago
        Keep is dead?
      - CydeWeys 4y ago

There it is. This makes sense, I must have missed this. That is bonkers. So many engineers but still shut down products every few weeks. EDIT: Still FURIOUS they shut down Stadia. I hate you Google

bushbaba 4y ago

makes you wonder, what exactly the headcount is going to. Double the headcount, but sure doesn't feel like double the innovation/product-growth.

UncleMeat 4y ago
It's also wild internally. It feels like headcount is incredibly tight, and even tighter now. Like 20% of my time as a manager is spent being asked to propose large new projects only to be told "nope, no HC for that." But somehow the company is like 4x larger than it as when I joined.
- mkmk3 4y ago
  Wow, really? So where is it all going?
  - UncleMeat 4y ago
    I suspect it is a property of subexponential growth. If every team gets new HC then the entire company grows at ridiculous pace. But it does feel disempowering to see the company grow like mad while we are told "not you."
spaceman_2020 4y ago
Honestly as an end user, the growth seems to be backwards. Search results are worse than ever, YouTube recommendations are broken, and for the first time in years, Google Maps is showing me weird as hell routes.

deegles 4y ago

Many are still furious about Google Reader.

TremendousJudge 4y ago

>Still FURIOUS they shut down Stadia You're the first person I have ever seen with this opinion. I want to know, back when this was released, what made you ignore all the people that said that the product would be a failure and that Google would shut it down quickly? I always saw that as the majority opinion.

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arthurcolle 4y ago
I thought that they would be serious about it given how much investment it took to get it off the ground and also how they were actively seeking relationships with indie devs to maintain vast amounts of quality titles. Obviously I was wrong and have been actively ending my own usage of Google products because I have been burned for the last time.
- andsoitis 4y ago
  In what way were you burned with Stadia? I thought they reimbursed folks and you got some entertainment while you subscribed. Ultimately, they couldn't convince enough people to sign up, but that's a whole different story about product strategy.
  - arthurcolle 4y ago
    I'll never get to finish Cyberpunk lol I'm not playing that again. Sure, the refunds are nice.
    - gundmc 4y ago
      I'm pretty sure you can transfer your save game for Cyberpunk off of Stadia to PC or consoles. It's not true of every game, but I think it works for Cyberpunk if you plug it into your search engine of choice.

subsubzero 4y ago

regarding stadia, What did you think they would happen? They have a graveyard of great projects that should still be used by millions. The only things I see continuing are android, ads, search, I even feel with the severe losses their cloud unit is seeing even GCP could be shut down. Hell I could even see them abandoning Waymo, I mean this is google after all :)

colinmhayes 4y ago
They're not killing chrome. I doubt they kill their office suite either, it has really good numbers among young people, and microsoft's entire business is built on the back of its enterprise productivity software. It's a trillion dollar market cap business.
- CydeWeys 4y ago
  The Office suite is used by every Googler every day (and that's every Googler, not just eng). It's what the company runs on. There's no way in hell it's getting shut down when it's that critical to business operations.
  - bushbaba 4y ago
    ...they killed some productivity apps. Don't say never. Hangouts, dead. Keep App, dead. Enterprise Search, dead. etc
    - chrisconroy 4y ago
      Keep isn't dead. I use it everyday on my personal and business account. I love keep. I will be sad when the inevitably kill it though.
    - hn_go_brrrrr 4y ago
      Keep is dead?
    - CydeWeys 4y ago