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Instead of repeatedly stating language is not prescriptive, just state your definition of a rogue like please…

• socialismisok 4y ago
  A roguelike prominently and predominantly features some combination of most of the following: 1) Run based (re)play, typically starting from a weak state and moving into a strong state. Then restarting at that weak state many times. 2) Randomization of the run in upgrades, powers, environment, or choices. Thinking on your feet and dealing with the random. Typically, environmental randomization is necessary. 3) Permanent death within a run. No save scumming - if you die in a run you'll have to start another run 4) Some sort of meta progression, whether that's a home base the player returns to, or just the increased knowledge of game systems (like in Nethack) 5) A community consensus that the game is a roguelike. 6) Emergent gameplay from multiple overlapping systems, often interacting in unexpected ways 7) Exploration or selecting paths through an environment where progress in the game usually requires leaving familiar areas and entering unfamiliar ones So rogue and Nethack meet all of those, absolutely. But so does Hades and Spelunky and binding of Isaac and Hades and FTL. Some games have roguelike elements, but are probably not roguelikes, say Inscryption.
  • dolni 4y ago
    By your definition, Fortnite is a roguelike.
    • socialismisok 4y ago
      It meets 1, 3, 4, and parts of 2. So no, I don't think it does. But battle Royale games do share a lot of DNA with roguelikes.
      • dolni 4y ago
        Four out of seven is MOST. "Parts of 2" is all that is required, because you used OR. And realistically, it meets 1, 2, 3, 4, and 7. "Community consensus that it is a roguelike" is not a real definition, anyway. Did you think yourself particularly clever for coming up with that one? Anyway, thank you for proving my point. Your inability to adequately "roguelike" demonstrates that, as I have been saying, it doesn't actually mean anything the way people use it.