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The concept of asking for a raise doesn't make sense to me even as a regular employee. If you need to beg for a raise, you're already in a bad negotiating posi

The concept of asking for a raise doesn't make sense to me even as a regular employee. If you need to beg for a raise, you're already in a bad negotiating position. The ideal situation is to figure out what you'd require to stay with your current employer, and see if they want to match that. You shouldn't need to care what their HR says is the "going rate" for your position, nor what the company has allocated for yearly raises. That's largely posturing on their part, and tells you little about how much they're willing to pay you if push comes to shove.

pc86 4y ago
If you're at a toxic company, you will need to ask for every raise, and will only ever get less than you ask for. But I feel like this comment ignores the fact that companies do have budgets, and the people above you still have their own budgets and bosses to report to. If you work for a company (especially public or non-venture, especially non-tech) there will absolutely be a lot of cost controls and constraints around what is allocated to raises, new hire salaries, retention and signing bonuses, etc. It's exceedingly rare that the line manager has authority to give anyone a 20% raise when he's given a 4% budget increase across the board.
- CoastalCoder 4y ago
  > But I feel like this comment ignores the fact that companies do have budgets, and the people above you still have their own budgets and bosses to report to. I didn't mean to imply that those factors aren't real. Rather, I was recommending that employees try to avoid being in a situation where those factors matter to the employee. Ideally you're aware of your options, and prepared to change jobs if it's in your interest. Unless you're personally invested in the employer, it's just business.