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If software was so regular like construction, we could automate most of it.

mylons 4y ago
then why isn't construction automated? i think if your company's processes are so specialized and nuance, you should really take a step back and ask if they should be.
- thaeli 4y ago
  Construction in the US is highly mechanized, the vast majority of laborers have been replaced by machinery.
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- chuckster563 4y ago
  Are you saying the fortune 500 are bad at business?
  - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
    A. Bank caused the financial crisis of 2008 B. Are you saying top banks are bad at banking?
    - end_of_line 4y ago
      That's the convenient myth to think banks caused crisis. Money printing and credit rates lowering by government caused this. Free money? Sure, why not. Please watch princes of yen documentary where they speak about "credit window guidance" conducted by Japanese national bank for more than decades
      - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
        oh so typical literal fraud by banks and security rating agencies was directly responsible for the crisis. They defrauded their customers and each other. Thats why they were called subprime loans.
        end_of_line 4y ago
        I don't deny frauds in credit agencies. However, somebody was buying banks' CDOs? Who, ancient aliens? No, they weren't called surprime because credit agencies cheated on their rating, they were called so because they were inherently risky more than a normal mortgage ( so called ninja loans, no income, no job ). That's the people were buying this shit with the all time low rate loans. Human greed huh? That's less convenient than blaming banks for all the evil in this world
Spooky23 4y ago
We do. 80% of the tasks that I did as an engineer in 1999 are fully automated today.
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- PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
  Interesting. Almost nothing I've done as a programmer since 1985 seems automated today. What do you mean by "fully automated" ?
  - paintballboi07 4y ago
    I worked at a place a long time ago upgrading legacy software from the 80s. I helped them update their build process from file shares, copy/pasting and manual building to Git, Jenkins and automated builds/tests/packaging. I know it's not automated code, but it certainly saved us a lot of time with about 50 assemblies. I'm sure some companies were ahead of the curve when it comes to stuff like that, but this was a really small company. Modern CI/CD software is great and saved us lots of time.
  - LtWorf 4y ago
    No? You had valgrind to find memory bugs in 1985?
    - dboreham 4y ago
      Debug heap libraries existed in 1895.
    - PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
      I would not consider that "full automated", but YMMV.
      - enraged_camel 4y ago
        Same. It's fair to say our tooling today is far superior, but "fully automated" implies virtually zero input from humans beyond the initial configuration.
indigochill 4y ago
We automate tons of software. That's what compilers and interpreters are. And now we're even entering the era of plausibly-deniably-stealing-other-people's-code-from-Github-as-a-service.
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then why isn't construction automated? i think if your company's processes are so specialized and nuance, you should really take a step back and ask if they should be.

thaeli 4y ago
Construction in the US is highly mechanized, the vast majority of laborers have been replaced by machinery.
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chuckster563 4y ago
Are you saying the fortune 500 are bad at business?
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  A. Bank caused the financial crisis of 2008 B. Are you saying top banks are bad at banking?
  - end_of_line 4y ago
    That's the convenient myth to think banks caused crisis. Money printing and credit rates lowering by government caused this. Free money? Sure, why not. Please watch princes of yen documentary where they speak about "credit window guidance" conducted by Japanese national bank for more than decades
    - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
      oh so typical literal fraud by banks and security rating agencies was directly responsible for the crisis. They defrauded their customers and each other. Thats why they were called subprime loans.
      - end_of_line 4y ago
        I don't deny frauds in credit agencies. However, somebody was buying banks' CDOs? Who, ancient aliens? No, they weren't called surprime because credit agencies cheated on their rating, they were called so because they were inherently risky more than a normal mortgage ( so called ninja loans, no income, no job ). That's the people were buying this shit with the all time low rate loans. Human greed huh? That's less convenient than blaming banks for all the evil in this world

Spooky23 4y ago

We do. 80% of the tasks that I did as an engineer in 1999 are fully automated today.

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PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
Interesting. Almost nothing I've done as a programmer since 1985 seems automated today. What do you mean by "fully automated" ?
- paintballboi07 4y ago
  I worked at a place a long time ago upgrading legacy software from the 80s. I helped them update their build process from file shares, copy/pasting and manual building to Git, Jenkins and automated builds/tests/packaging. I know it's not automated code, but it certainly saved us a lot of time with about 50 assemblies. I'm sure some companies were ahead of the curve when it comes to stuff like that, but this was a really small company. Modern CI/CD software is great and saved us lots of time.
- LtWorf 4y ago
  No? You had valgrind to find memory bugs in 1985?
  - dboreham 4y ago
    Debug heap libraries existed in 1895.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
    I would not consider that "full automated", but YMMV.
    - enraged_camel 4y ago
      Same. It's fair to say our tooling today is far superior, but "fully automated" implies virtually zero input from humans beyond the initial configuration.

indigochill 4y ago

We automate tons of software. That's what compilers and interpreters are. And now we're even entering the era of plausibly-deniably-stealing-other-people's-code-from-Github-as-a-service.

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