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My humble solution to this is Snikket: https://snikket.org/ https://snikket.org/ I can't claim it has exact feature parity with Signal/Telegram/WhatsApp, but i

My humble solution to this is Snikket: https://snikket.org/ https://snikket.org/ I can't claim it has exact feature parity with Signal/Telegram/WhatsApp, but it has all the important stuff and is good enough for my family to use daily. It also has some advantages, such as not requiring a phone number (which e.g. means that my children can use it on the old "living room tablet"). Snikket counters the "empty contact list" problem and the network effects by focusing on small groups like this, automatically including everyone else in the same group(s) in your contact list. It helps a lot. The ultimate goal is that we get enough such small groups operating on open networks, eventually the members of those groups will find they can communicate with each other. It's better approach than isolated individuals using XMPP/whatever with empty contact lists just because they believe in it.

jraph 4y ago
Okay, this actually looks like a serious attempt at solving the exact problems I pointed out! I wish you all the best for Snikket! Congratulations and thanks for working on this issue that definitely needs a solution. Is there a desktop app for Snikket?
- MattJ100 4y ago
  Thanks! The project is generally going well, if a little ambitious for the resources it currently has :) Having been down the venture capital route in the past and not particularly enjoyed it, I'm trying to work on Snikket as close to full-time as possible while self-limiting to funding that's compatible with the open nature of the project and the ecosystem it's a part of. Currently grants, sponsorships and donations are helping immensely with that. There is no desktop app yet, but it's firmly on the roadmap. For now I tend to point people towards Dino or Gajim for Windows and Linux, or Beagle for MacOS. None are a perfect match for the project right now, but power users can generally deal with it, and all of them are under active development and constantly improving.
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jraph 4y ago

Okay, this actually looks like a serious attempt at solving the exact problems I pointed out! I wish you all the best for Snikket! Congratulations and thanks for working on this issue that definitely needs a solution. Is there a desktop app for Snikket?

MattJ100 4y ago
Thanks! The project is generally going well, if a little ambitious for the resources it currently has :) Having been down the venture capital route in the past and not particularly enjoyed it, I'm trying to work on Snikket as close to full-time as possible while self-limiting to funding that's compatible with the open nature of the project and the ecosystem it's a part of. Currently grants, sponsorships and donations are helping immensely with that. There is no desktop app yet, but it's firmly on the roadmap. For now I tend to point people towards Dino or Gajim for Windows and Linux, or Beagle for MacOS. None are a perfect match for the project right now, but power users can generally deal with it, and all of them are under active development and constantly improving.
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